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Title: SGP's Statement of Intent
Post by: virus man on May 15, 2009, 04:11:49 PM
SGP has been recreated.  SGP membership is considered classified and will not be given out.  All members, with the exception of me, will deny any affiliation with SGP. (Due to our Goals of which have been stated which includes testing out NEW FEATURES, bolded and capped for those to dimwitted to understand, yes our members shall be known.  However since the majority of us are gold and we are specifically using different names on all software it will still provide a way to keep our servers unknown.)

SGP's goals for R3.
Thoroughly test out the new features just as we did in R1 which includes verifying any bugs we come across for repeatability prior to notification to Titam.  If after reporting the bug to Titam there is no response after 48 hours then they will be posted in the bugs section along with full steps to recreate the bug as well as the initial report sent to Titam.  This is purely for accountability.

Thoroughly test out the new client that SGP is working on for hopeful deployment in time for R4.

We have not decided yet on if we will be pro-rev or pro-faith.

We will aggressively protect our assets.  This is fair warning for all.

We will provide a full disclosure of our tactics at the end of R3.

We will not be accepting any new members for R3.  If someone leaves for whatever reason then that spot will remain empty.

Any questions or comments regarding SGP should be directed to me (Ebolla) <Just to point out this statement to which I had received no questions nor comments regarding SGP through prior SGP stated means>


Title: Re: SGP's Statement of Intent
Post by: jager on May 17, 2009, 03:25:34 PM
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All members, with the exception of me, will deny any affiliation with SGP.

Dang, you broke another of your statements :)
Right now I can name 6 of your members ...


Title: Re: SGP's Statement of Intent
Post by: LordWicked on May 17, 2009, 03:36:30 PM
Yup, we can name a few.... Check the top Ranking  :12:


Title: Re: SGP's Statement of Intent
Post by: Hatejacket (iPhone) on May 17, 2009, 03:43:08 PM
That's a rather generic statement. Historically if you're looking for SGP members, that's where you look :)


Title: Re: SGP's Statement of Intent
Post by: DamascuS on May 17, 2009, 04:05:37 PM
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All members, with the exception of me, will deny any affiliation with SGP.

Dang, you broke another of your statements :)
Right now I can name 6 of your members ...
WE didn't break any statements. The update allowed for the naming. Think before you post :19:

That's a rather generic statement. Historically if you're looking for SGP members, that's where you look :)
Hit the nail right on the head there HJ  :7:
Hope to see you up here with us too, would be just like old times. (even though i was a late-entry)


Title: Re: SGP's Statement of Intent
Post by: gs 059 on May 17, 2009, 04:15:28 PM
so the statement
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SGP has been recreated.  SGP membership is considered classified and will not be given out.  All members, with the exception of me, will deny any affiliation with SGP.

is not really a statement? they way I see it, displaying that you are part of sgp is the same thing as telling people you are affiliated with it.

also, hj, I think you should look at the HOF before making more posts like that...


Title: Re: SGP's Statement of Intent
Post by: jager on May 17, 2009, 04:25:51 PM
Eh, Gs 059 - leave them their fun :)
They are trying to convince themself more then us.


Title: Re: SGP's Statement of Intent
Post by: DamascuS on May 17, 2009, 04:35:14 PM
so the statement
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SGP has been recreated.  SGP membership is considered classified and will not be given out.  All members, with the exception of me, will deny any affiliation with SGP.

is not really a statement? they way I see it, displaying that you are part of sgp is the same thing as telling people you are affiliated with it.

Are you really this demented in real life gs? Do yourself a favour and read the previous post again. You are making no sense whatsoever. You cannot choose whether or not to have the tag displayed on your name, therefore, i will repeat myself. SGP did not break any statement. End of.


Title: Re: SGP's Statement of Intent
Post by: jager on May 17, 2009, 04:44:01 PM
Now who is not making any sense?

Well, you CAN choose to join the official created group (and get the tag) or not - you can still be in SGP and work with other members without joining the official group. You can also CHOOSE to create official group or not - so yes - by creating the group and joining it you do officially announce membership in the group. Therefor - breaking the starting statement :)



Title: Re: SGP's Statement of Intent
Post by: DamascuS on May 17, 2009, 04:50:07 PM
Why don't you stop nit-picking and go back to your missions. I dont have the time nor patience, and besides, when did any of us ever have to answer to you? or anyone else for that matter?

You forgot all about the underlying matter here...SGP MADE THE STATEMENT, who is saying we havn't changed it? Ebolla hasn't posted here yet so maybe he hasn't had time to change it...you ever think about that?


Title: Re: SGP's Statement of Intent
Post by: jager on May 17, 2009, 04:51:11 PM
 :laugh:


Title: Re: SGP's Statement of Intent
Post by: gs 059 on May 17, 2009, 05:01:36 PM
:laugh:



Title: Re: SGP's Statement of Intent
Post by: DamascuS on May 17, 2009, 05:07:25 PM
The world would be too perfect if people didn't have a difference of opinion.

So....

:laugh:


Title: Re: SGP's Statement of Intent
Post by: Hatejacket (iPhone) on May 17, 2009, 10:56:00 PM
The world would be too perfect if people didn't have a difference of opinion.

So....

:laugh:


Title: Re: SGP's Statement of Intent
Post by: gs 059 on May 18, 2009, 12:02:16 AM
how is that a difference of opinion?


Title: Re: SGP's Statement of Intent
Post by: virus man on May 18, 2009, 12:28:28 AM
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All members, with the exception of me, will deny any affiliation with SGP.

Dang, you broke another of your statements :)
Right now I can name 6 of your members ...

Well that wasn't due to me but due to the fact that Titam decided to ignore the part in the Group discussion about making the Group tag user set.

OP has been updated to reflect recent changes in game play to which it was stated we would test thoroughly in the second paragraph.


Title: Re: SGP's Statement of Intent
Post by: DamascuS on May 18, 2009, 02:16:38 AM
how is that a difference of opinion?

What do you want? a wikipedia quote?

Tough luck, this will have to do:

Difference Of Opinion:
You think you're smart...the rest of us don't.

 :laugh:


Title: Re: SGP's Statement of Intent
Post by: Triadian on May 18, 2009, 02:39:30 AM
how is that a difference of opinion?

What do you want? a wikipedia quote?

Tough luck, this will have to do:

Difference Of Opinion:
You think you're smart...the rest of us don't.

 :laugh:

MMmm am i included in "rest" ? if so then your definition is wrong also.

as i think he is smart.


Title: Re: SGP's Statement of Intent
Post by: virus man on May 18, 2009, 02:47:23 AM
As my daddy always said "Son, opinions are like a$$holes.  Some just stink more than others."


Title: Re: SGP's Statement of Intent
Post by: gs 059 on May 18, 2009, 02:52:49 AM
I am taking dama's statement as an example rathe than actual thoughts.
I know what a difference of opinion is. have you seen the video (more of just audio) about the person who is calling about his phone bill and they do not know the difference between .002 dollors and .002 cents. no it is not a diference of opinions, it is difference in amounts of money in that case...


Title: Re: SGP's Statement of Intent
Post by: ivandrago on May 18, 2009, 03:17:51 AM
"Son, opinions are like a$$holes.  Some just stink more than others."

 :13:  :13: you americans can be very funny  :13: :13:


Title: Re: SGP's Statement of Intent
Post by: DamascuS on May 18, 2009, 03:48:28 AM
how is that a difference of opinion?

What do you want? a wikipedia quote?

Tough luck, this will have to do:

Difference Of Opinion:
You think you're smart...the rest of us don't.

 :laugh:

MMmm am i included in "rest" ? if so then your definition is wrong also.

as i think he is smart.
And you are obviously not.

Since this was a discussion about SGP, and since my exact words were "rest of us", just how do you figure you would be included in that.


Title: Re: SGP's Statement of Intent
Post by: virus man on May 19, 2009, 09:23:08 PM
so the statement
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SGP has been recreated.  SGP membership is considered classified and will not be given out.  All members, with the exception of me, will deny any affiliation with SGP.

is not really a statement? they way I see it, displaying that you are part of sgp is the same thing as telling people you are affiliated with it.

also, hj, I think you should look at the HOF before making more posts like that...

Well I have thought long and hard on this matter and am going to come forth with something.

SGP was around in R2.  It was broken down into cells to allow me to find the leaks from R1.  Those leaks were found and obliterated.

SGP facilitated Revelations in R1 and R2.   All those servers hosting Revelations that were against me were actually all owned by SGP members.
In R1 SGP has a split as to if it should be pro-rev or pro-faith.  We agreed we would not screw with each other but only those who were pro-faith had access to the pro-faith forums.

That being said....   SGP has always been the number 1 group.  There have been some players who were exceptional with their planning and end of round play but all in all as a group SGP has the most in the HoF out of any group who stated their existance.

And the software from the R1 HoF was all SGP software.  R2 I am not sure who researched it even though it was quickly acquired by lots.

Why am I coming forth with this?  Because I have decided that from here on out SGP will disclose all end of round actions used during that round.  This will help SGP become better at the game as well as help out others.  However since my memory sucks, dam prescription drugs, I don't have everything documented but have made references to several R1 strats throughout the forums.


Title: Re: SGP's Statement of Intent
Post by: gs 059 on May 19, 2009, 09:30:32 PM
are you going to post wich members were in sgp and in the HoF at the end of each round too?


::edid:: like for the previous two rounds...


Title: Re: SGP's Statement of Intent
Post by: virus man on May 19, 2009, 09:35:29 PM
are you going to post wich members were in sgp and in the HoF at the end of each round too?

Well from here on out I won't have to since Titam is forcing the group affiliation tag.


Title: Re: SGP's Statement of Intent
Post by: jager on May 20, 2009, 09:20:52 AM
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SGP facilitated Revelations in R1 and R2.   All those servers hosting Revelations that were against me were actually all owned by SGP members.

Hehe ... hihi ... hoho ... Are you sure? So I was in SGP? And Ginjitsu? And Triadian? And ...

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That being said....   SGP has always been the number 1 group.  There have been some players who were exceptional with their planning and end of round play but all in all as a group SGP has the most in the HoF out of any group who stated their existance.

Mwahahahahaahahahahahaahaha, you are funny, virus man, really funny ... Number 1 in what? Boasting?

If that statement is true, how come only two of HoF are now listed as in SGP? Oh - I forgot - you are hiding ... I was in SI, true, but after they broke apart, I never looked for a new group. But I do have information. That is my purpose in this game - gathering information. And I must tell you - you sure are full of 'stierpoep'!


Title: Re: SGP's Statement of Intent
Post by: virus man on May 20, 2009, 04:28:25 PM
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SGP facilitated Revelations in R1 and R2.   All those servers hosting Revelations that were against me were actually all owned by SGP members.

Hehe ... hihi ... hoho ... Are you sure? So I was in SGP? And Ginjitsu? And Triadian? And ...

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That being said....   SGP has always been the number 1 group.  There have been some players who were exceptional with their planning and end of round play but all in all as a group SGP has the most in the HoF out of any group who stated their existance.

Mwahahahahaahahahahahaahaha, you are funny, virus man, really funny ... Number 1 in what? Boasting?

If that statement is true, how come only two of HoF are now listed as in SGP? Oh - I forgot - you are hiding ... I was in SI, true, but after they broke apart, I never looked for a new group. But I do have information. That is my purpose in this game - gathering information. And I must tell you - you sure are full of 'stierpoep'!

Then you know that SI was connected to SGP.  Anything else?


Title: Re: SGP's Statement of Intent
Post by: jager on May 20, 2009, 04:56:13 PM
Really? In what way?
What's your point? Even if that would be true, as you said it - 'WAS'. And if one member was before associated with SGP and was then in SI, that does not mean he's yours forever :)


Title: Re: SGP's Statement of Intent
Post by: virus man on May 20, 2009, 05:12:46 PM
Really? In what way?
What's your point? Even if that would be true, as you said it - 'WAS'. And if one member was before associated with SGP and was then in SI, that does not mean he's yours forever :)


Perhaps you should talk to HJ about SI and where SI got it's software before you make yourself into more of a fool and lose any more respect.


Title: Re: SGP's Statement of Intent
Post by: Hatejacket (iPhone) on May 20, 2009, 05:23:45 PM
I certainly wouldn't say all of the SI software came from SGP but some of it did. Regardless, I stick by my earlier comment.

Cheers.

HJ - former leader of SI (fell apart due to my unplanned hiatus from the game), Former leader of ARC (fell apart to relieve any tension between myself and Ebolla), Former Executive Officer and 2nd generation SGP Member.

SGP will always be my home. And I'm not even in the group this round ;)


Title: Re: SGP's Statement of Intent
Post by: DamascuS on May 20, 2009, 07:17:02 PM
I will keep this simple.

Mwahahahahaahahahahahaahaha, you are funny, virus man, really funny ... Number 1 in what? Boasting?

SGP   Six Guns Productions   6   6   7,377,104
AiR   Art is Resistance   6   6   2,590,322
Linux   Linux   6   6   1,960,312
OS   Operation Swordfish   2   6   1,347,629
GoS   Guys of Sarcasm   2   6   716,005
CRSHK   CrossHack   2   6   639,229
OG   Original Gangsters   1   6   287,627
HP   Hacker Project Admin   1   1   9,159
D-T   Dark-Team Group   1   6   6,635

I Think that list says it all :laugh:

how come only two of HoF are now listed as in SGP? Oh - I forgot - you are hiding ...   
Members come...members go...truth is, you will never know anything that we don't want you to.

And I must tell you - you sure are full of 'stierpoep'!
Actions speak louder than words my little friend, so why dont you put your money where your mouth is and fall like the rest. :laugh:


Title: Re: SGP's Statement of Intent
Post by: gs 059 on May 21, 2009, 12:40:33 AM
and out of all the things you have said, I really do not understand what you are talking about when you say to put your money where your mouth is...
although I do wonder, what happened to you between the time that I met you and now?


Title: Re: SGP's Statement of Intent
Post by: DamascuS on May 21, 2009, 02:02:45 AM
and out of all the things you have said, I really do not understand what you are talking about when you say to put your money where your mouth is...
although I do wonder, what happened to you between the time that I met you and now?
Basically i am fed up, to the point of exhaustion, of people like that who are consistently trying to demoralise others, for whatever reason. I do know someone on here who left for a time because of the constant abuse etc he was receiving from individuals.

It's happened once before...remember when Gin put up his public repo and posted it on the forums, in flew the abuse, not necessarily all at him, but still...unneeded, and now, just because we have set some goals, and decided to be public about it with this statement...abuse again!

We are all human here, so why do half these people act like they are above god?

Anyway, he's just trying to find another reason to whine at SGP, we're used to it :laugh:

I do apologise if i come off a little harsh sometimes, but i only say what needs to be said, and i will always try and have the last word lol.

Other that that, gs, i havn't changed at all mate, im still me, just got a lot going on in RL at the moment and sometimes a little of it will spill over here when im typing, and for that i am sorry.


Title: Re: SGP's Statement of Intent
Post by: gs 059 on May 21, 2009, 02:08:36 AM
that is becuase it is the internet here...

also, I would like to know who in the hof was in sgp, I really want to know mostly because I can only count 1-5 of them that have been in it..


Title: Re: SGP's Statement of Intent
Post by: Seb on May 21, 2009, 10:31:30 PM
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Title: Re: SGP's Statement of Intent
Post by: gs 059 on May 21, 2009, 11:33:14 PM
^^ exactly..


Title: Re: SGP's Statement of Intent
Post by: Donn on May 22, 2009, 02:27:59 AM
Well I have thought long and hard on this matter and am going to come forth with something.

SGP was around in R2.  It was broken down into cells to allow me to find the leaks from R1.  Those leaks were found and obliterated.

SGP facilitated Revelations in R1 and R2.   All those servers hosting Revelations that were against me were actually all owned by SGP members.
In R1 SGP has a split as to if it should be pro-rev or pro-faith.  We agreed we would not screw with each other but only those who were pro-faith had access to the pro-faith forums.

That being said....   SGP has always been the number 1 group.  There have been some players who were exceptional with their planning and end of round play but all in all as a group SGP has the most in the HoF out of any group who stated their existance.

And the software from the R1 HoF was all SGP software.  R2 I am not sure who researched it even though it was quickly acquired by lots.

Why am I coming forth with this?  Because I have decided that from here on out SGP will disclose all end of round actions used during that round.  This will help SGP become better at the game as well as help out others.  However since my memory sucks, dam prescription drugs, I don't have everything documented but have made references to several R1 strats throughout the forums.

Ah the good old SGP "HP is serious business!" topics  :13:

FYI the highest software ingame from R2 was researched by me. It's kind of normal everybody gets the software if certain individuals buy it and then let it get stolen, because they forgot to buy the highest Hide Files ingame also AND forgot to lock their BW.

And I have to admit that SGP is indeed the best known group in HP.  :happy:

Btw, some players were exceptional? If I'm not mistaken, 8 out of 10 top 10 players in R1 weren't in SGP.
At the end of R1 I also asked around, because I wanted to know if I had a good hardware or not. Some top 10 players had double the hardware some SGP players had (not Tiak ofcourse).

I have one advice for SGP and if they take it into account, I'm certain they will own the top 10: watch out for hubris.

PS. Where is Tiak?!  :10:



Title: Re: SGP's Statement of Intent
Post by: HJ® on May 22, 2009, 11:28:38 AM
Tiak, we miss you, come home baby! lol


Title: Re: SGP's Statement of Intent
Post by: virus man on May 22, 2009, 05:54:13 PM
Tiak left near the end of R1 because of the way the game was looking.  Sadly there are many SGP that have left the game.

Neo
CRL
Soviet Pride
Rothum
MoTS
Tiak
And many many more.


The original SGP was 6 people.
Rothum
MoTS
Ebolla
Neo
Soviet
Gor

Then once they started leaving things went up and down.

Scrixx
HJ
Crlaozwyn
Tiak
nolkillerklowns
Krieger
DamascuS
Araeus
Zand
pendruag
kriszke
jimmi33
Exousia
dupke
Eledran

Those are all who have come and gone since the original SGP, some are still in SGP to this day.  And I think every single person on the forums can attest that they have all been a driving force within the game.  SGP has always been disliked by the majority as a whole which is fine with me.  SGP is a living force within the game now.  Those who have moved on have started their own groups to try and accomplish the things they did when they were a part of SGP.  Many others who were not directly related have had their lives in the game shaped by SGP and that has driven them to become better players to threaten SGP.  And that alone makes me proud of creating SGP and having it run in various ways.

In the days and rounds to come the SGP roster will change time and time again. Those who are our adversaries will continue pushing with new strategies and tactics.  Which in turn will drive SGP to become better and better.

/salute


Title: Re: SGP's Statement of Intent
Post by: Hatejacket on May 22, 2009, 09:33:47 PM
Woof woof. ;)

On another hand, I would like to thank you for bringing out my potential which is what you do best. Ive attempted to transcend that with certain people that I helped show the ropes of the game And also give a kick in the butt to get them going..

Krieger
Kriszke
Jimmi
Exousia
Araeus
Dupke

There may be more but I don't want to seem like a glory hog.

All of these players will be remembered for rounds to come. And I probably wouldn't have kept playing if I wasn't on your side.


Title: Re: SGP's Statement of Intent
Post by: Exousia on May 22, 2009, 10:30:49 PM
Heh... I might not have even stuck with the game had it not been for Hatejacket/Ironlungs in ARC and then Ebolla and SGP.

So, whether you like me or not, you have HJ and SGP to thank for my being here.  :13:


Title: Re: SGP's Statement of Intent
Post by: DamascuS on May 23, 2009, 03:37:38 AM
Well, i have to say the same Exousia, if were not for Ebolla inviting me into SGP, i would probably have left mid-R2, he constantly pushes me forward and keeps me on my toes, and i've probably...no, i definately have become a better player for it, and though i've not had much direct contact with HJ, i have to admit i always admired you in R1, not just one single thing...but everything, perhaps its because im reminded of myself...who knows, but still.

SGP has been the driving force of my game since the beginning, even when myself, zand, pendurag and nkk first created TnW, our goals were to match those of SGP, must have worked because we ended up joining forces /lol

Anyway i'll stop rambling now  :laugh:


Title: Re: SGP's Statement of Intent
Post by: Hatejacket on May 23, 2009, 03:59:22 AM
The respect is mutual Damas.

I'm back for r3 though with a new fire in my eyes and a thirst for power :)


Title: Re: SGP's Statement of Intent
Post by: Exousia on May 23, 2009, 04:58:22 AM

Ah the good old SGP "HP is serious business!" topics  :13:



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