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I was thinking you should have something to deposit your HPD on from the balance, then it came to me. Why not invest it?

Stocks in the corporations, you buy stocks and they may go up or down, depending on how the corp is doing. The stocks would be affected by many actions, like doing missions for particular corp will increase it's stocks, or installing virii will decrease them. Basically, the stocks will be affected by all the gameplay actions, including malware attacks on corps. Then, you could play the stock market and try to predict and invest in the corp that you think will do best, or even try to manipulate the stocks via group ingame action... It could go up / down, but that's what a stock market does :)

Any comments?

This is a little unbalanced. What if SGP and the other big groups decided to bring down a specific corp just to support it later to bring in even more HPD?

And a note to all: If you can invest in TL, dont do it. Theyll just go straight downwards.

Brilliant idea but easily manipulated by big groups.

Just like I said.

What I was thinking is this would go very well with the factions suggestion, where you join a corp it would only be natural that if you protect the assets of the corp you would also invest in it's stocks. Then, after the corp wars start the stock may go down and then back up and eventually stabilize, etc. So you would always have a few options and try to invest in the corp that has the best profit margin...

The idea behind it is that if you invested 100 HPD and the stock went down 2% on the previous week, it may go up 4% in the following week, and you can make a profit of 2%. Or you could sell it for 98 HPD and buy stock on another corp that has a better margin.

Also, this could open up other hacking posibilities / missions, like missions to hack into stock market servers and try to steal stock or manipulate things from behind the curtains :) I'm sure the mega-corps will be most interested in giving missions to discredit the rival corps in favor of their own stocks :)

Good idea...

I just can't yet understand what it has to do with the downgrade suggestion... xD

He got inspired by my Über Perfect post of Epic... whatever.

with the new missions an stuff it's a very attractive idea,

d**nit, I was to afraid to post this, but it's been on my mind since the start!
woot for stocks and stock manipulation!

(and data liberation, and being able to work for TL or the MCs!)

sounds good

sounds Awesome!  :12:

Its sounds good.
There should be a table like the high score page, that would show the current points that the Mega-Corp has.

And if th groups were to be supported ingame, then maybe there could be stock for the group to. Cause most poeple (or at least the one that are powerful) are against True Light, and there are so many missions against the other Mega-Corps. So if the groups can be a way so that the stock accualy can go up.

I'm going to buy 10-100 (depending on prices!) shares of omnicron and Hakuza.
(I hear they have some plans in development!)

Drop Hakuza. Their soon to be brought down.

Just to ensure credit goes where credit is due.

Stocks have been suggested in both of these threads.
Data Liberation (http://www.hacker-project.com/forum/index.php?topic=828.15)
Bank Accounts (http://www.hacker-project.com/forum/index.php?topic=100.0)

I do recall some other mentions of stocks but can't remember which threads those were in.

To merge an above topic, I'd LOVE to see something like...Bank Accounts + Stocks. ANYONE living in the U.S. today will agree.

You can deposit your HPD into your Bank Account OR the Stock Market, and one option would be to invest in the bank stocks at the stock market. The amount of HPD in each M-C bank would have some influence on the stock, but not entirely. Banks can crash, stocks can crash.

And then we can hack people's bank accounts!   :13:

Hack Bank Account Missions :)

NUUUUU!
You don't steal my hpdz!!1111one1

the one of two things in this game that are secure, bank and messages.... please do not take the bank one away..

(although it would be interesting to install spyware on someones bank....)

oh, oh, oh, let's allow msg hacking!  :laugh:
We can interrupt plans and private messages!
Privacy? What is?

The HPD you have on hand will always be secure, just like the Secure FTP.

What we need is something that you can put your HPD in to work for you and attach a risk factor to it, so that's why I came up with stock markets.

Now I guess you could use the bank of a mega-corp just like you use the stock market, and deposit HPD to gain interest, however those accounts / shares will be hackable. Bank accounts with interest are usually guaranteed investments for a bank, so it should be the same as a stock purchase but with a lower risk factor.

There will be some sort of mini game in there, where you would involve one or more of your servers to hack, acquire and track the stock / bank accounts of others. Some sort of semi-private account system will be created in order to prevent transfers of HPD between accounts, but still make it possible to steal stuff.

But, for those that want their HPD safe and sound, they can always have the HPD in the secure stash attached to each HP account :)

 

That's why I always keep my HPD stuffed in my mattress.

It's a very thin mattress and kinda lumpy.

It's hard like the concrete floor of my squalid hovel.

I don't sleep well on it.

Can't sleep. Clown will eat me.

"Can't sleep. Clown will eat me." should be "Can't sleep. nolkillerclowns will eat me."

FIX'D.

 :laugh:

Too bad NKK isn't around at the moment.

Ah, crap. I missed an opportunity for epic comedy rather than just "ha ha, he made a funny" comedy.

And, on track with the OP, I'd play with a stock market. I probably wouldn't mess with bank accounts with all those hackers out there, though.  :16:

I may have a basic idea on how the stock market would work.

We start with each faction / corp and their own stocks. Stocks will be influenced by:

- offer / demand (how many bought / sold)
- corp liquid assets (HPD invested by players)
- corp static assets (servers / hardware)

- virii power installed on corp negatively affecting the stock
- missions done for the corp positively affecting the stock
- missions done against the corp negatively affecting the stock


Stock exchange missions (simple and effective) will constitute of:

- Hacking a rival mega-corp and stealing stock market data / profits.
  Objective: Hack the mega-corp server, find the stock market trojan virii file that was inserted by a third party giving the mission. Activate the trojan file, (version depending on mission reward, completing activate process require AP like a normal virii). First player to complete the activation process receives the reward, provided they have the mission on the file. Trojan file deletes itself and all traces of it after activation is completed.

  Result: Acquire a small portion of the wealth (mission reward), while having a negative impact on the stock of the rival corp. Everybody in the rival corp losses as the stock is decreased if the mission is successful. The reward is actually the missing wealth reflected in the lowering of the stock by X points.


The stock market will also serve as a ranking for the mega-corps to see what corp is the most powerful.

sounds good,

would the stocks be included for the truelight corp???? like how you can choose a corp to be in.

Truelight isn't really a corporation, so I would say that they shouldn't really have stocks...

You're right. True Light is more like Adolf Hitler. They pose as the good guy but in reality, they are the master of all evil. Meanwhile SGP gets the finger pointing for being the bad guys although we're doing the EXACT thing that True Light was made for: "Their goal is to develop the ultimate software and use it against the menace".

So we are the bad guys for developing the ultimate software and using it against the menace? Why is True Light the Good Corporation, then?

ok

i see now lol


thanks from answering the question  :)

Well, according to Emi's plot update, True Light isn't actually evil; they didn't have bad intentions. Revelation just got out of control.


Also, I invoke Godwin's Law :P

The same can be said about the Faith Union. We're still the "bad guys" apparently.

Also, Godwin's Law is stupid.

"If two kids on the internet continue to argue, they are more likely to begin calling eachother nazi's"

Uhh, duh? Welcome to life, There's no law.

Oh, come on. Godwin's law is funny. It may not be particularly profound, but it makes me chuckle.

It sounds like something someone came up with just to gain some publicity.

looks like it worked hj...

Well, it's kinda true, too. I mean, if you watch a messageboard long enough, a LOT of flamewars degenerate into one side yelling at the other about being fascists.

This stock market and bank account ideas will help boost PVP, the single thing that this game is missing.
I say we implement a beta of it and mess with it and see what comes out of it.

I'll test out all the bugs concerning stealing profits and shares and such!  :laugh:
 :5:

Well this thread hasn't been posted in for awhile but I just joined so....

I think this is a great Idea ecspecially if the chosing sides update comes in..... altho I've never really understood the stock market... why not practice now?

Shouldn't be hard, purchase stocks at a price, sell at a price, a simplified version of the real stock market.

Maybe combine a megacorp run stock market, with player-run banks?  The stock market would work as described earlier, and the banks would be something that players would have to take efforts to defend (but not in the same ways as regular servers, so higher players don't have a monopoly).  Anyway, the player banks would be hackable if they weren't well-run, and it would be possible for the owner to embezzle from it, so one would have to trust them.  The player could also choose to invest a percentage of the money in the stock market and earn interest or losses for their investors.

I'm just throwing this idea out there, in some respects I don't like the idea of investing in-game itself.  In many games in which you can invest your earnings, people just hoard more and more money to gain higher and higher returns on their investment, and it essentially becomes a requirement to invest all of your money for a few months straight to eve have a shot at keeping up.

If Tiak's idea is implemented:
Starshined Bank:
The bank you can trust.
Change the stock market with only a 2%* patron rate!
We will be Omnicron based**, and will allow for a 3%^ interest every week!
Why trust COMMUNISTS^^ when you can trust our shady industrialists?
*may be increased to as much as 20%
**Or Hakuza, or Icarus, depends on who I have a lot of stock in.
^may be decreased to .1%
^^COMMUNISTS do not exist here, and our shady industrialists are actually moonshined-hippies.

I hope your ready to impliment this in the new round  :19: along with factions.  :laugh:

btw











BUMP!!!

I love stocks <3
As long as you keep it balanced in some way  :14:

This would be a cool idea....

yes, yes it would