IRC Discussion - Virii reconnect and disguise processes

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<@Triadian> afaik destabilization has been dropped
<Araeus_Away> that require more work, but give more money
<Araeus_Away> whatever, just threw it in as an example ;)
<Araeus_Away> the sapping HPD from people thing is nice in theory
<Araeus_Away> but I don't think it'll go over well
<Araeus_Away> nooobody installs virii on other people's servers
<@Triadian> lol it hasnt - i made loads of enemies :P
<Araeus_Away> takes too long, and in one hour they IP change and you lose
<Araeus_Away> there's no point
<Araeus_Away> heck there's no point in secret servers either because they IP change
<Araeus_Away> if I want income while I research
<Araeus_Away> I have to worry about spending AP on installing my virii on secret servers at certain intervals
<@Triadian> if the ip change of virii install comes in would that help ?
<Araeus_Away> while recharging AP to complete research at other intervals
<Araeus_Away> if the what now?
<Araeus_Away> what needs to happen is this
<Araeus_Away> you install virii on someone's server
<@Triadian> rather than SS changing every 300 hours
<Araeus_Away> then, you collect profits
<@Triadian> they only start that 300 counter when they get X% of virii installed on them
<Araeus_Away> when they IP change
<Araeus_Away> you lose the connection
<Araeus_Away> but, when you reconnect to that server again (find it again after IP change)
<Araeus_Away> you re-establish connection to those virii
<Araeus_Away> and can collect more profits from the time they've been running
<Araeus_Away> so you have to IP change and get rid of those virii or something before they catch you again or they'll steal more money
<@Triadian> so permanent virii income regardless of server changes
<Araeus_Away> until they get disinfected/captured
<Araeus_Away> yeah
<Araeus_Away> you just have to find that same server again
<@Triadian> this for private or secret ?
<Araeus_Away> maybe run a reconnect process on those virii
<Araeus_Away> probably both
<Araeus_Away> mostly aimed at private if you want that to be a viable pvp option
<Araeus_Away> installing virii i mean
<Araeus_Away> but secrets would make that so much more worthwhile too
<@Triadian> but its impossible to install virii on a private ?
<Araeus_Away> it's not impossible
<Araeus_Away> nobody does it right now because they take an hour to IP change and your virii are gone for good
<@Triadian> well is no BW to upload it and you need pray the guy doesnt log in for 300 hours while you upload and install
<Araeus_Away> if you could reconnect to those virii after the IP change if you found the server and get your profits I think there would be a lot more rush in pvp
<Araeus_Away> well you'd do smaller virii
<Araeus_Away> probably adware since they're faster
<Araeus_Away> upload a couple of v5 or v10 adwares
<Araeus_Away> install
<Araeus_Away> then start working on more
<Araeus_Away> when they IP change, you hunt down their server again
<Araeus_Away> kill their disinfects on your virii
<@Triadian> ok so - let me see if this sums up your ideas
<Araeus_Away> and reconnect to get your profits
<Araeus_Away> while you install more and they try to stop you
<@Triadian> installed virii = every X minutes = collect hpd to storage
<@Triadian> if activated then cash goes to owner
<Araeus_Away> that could be nice, the manual collect is good for this current incarnation but in the future i think it should be automatic
<@Triadian> if not - activated goes to storage until player finds virii
<Araeus_Away> yes
<Araeus_Away> only the player that installed it can reconnect to it as well
<Araeus_Away> maybe have a software to let you override or something with time
<@Triadian> inless its captured
<Araeus_Away> yes
<Araeus_Away> just use breaker for that
<Araeus_Away> actually
<Araeus_Away> when you find the virii again you have to run a "reconnect virii" opertaion
<Araeus_Away> operation
<@Triadian> or a faster captire
<Araeus_Away> takes like 5 or 10 minutes
<Araeus_Away> since you just have to resync with the new IP
<@Triadian> can use capture software but have X10 speed or something becuase you already opwn it
<Araeus_Away> yeah, like deletes on localhost
<Araeus_Away> that could work
<@Triadian> go write it up on forum :P
<Araeus_Away> then you can collect the profits that the virii has stored up
<Araeus_Away> maybe to a certain point
<Araeus_Away> like 255 hours or something
<Araeus_Away> after that the virii runs out of storage space and caps out
<@Triadian> that would work
<@Triadian> although the higher version = higher storage
<Araeus_Away> so you can't find a v50 fileshare you installed somewhere later
<Araeus_Away> and get like 1000 hours of profits because the guy is only halfway done with teh disinfect at that point
<Araeus_Away> yeah, fileshares have more storage than adwares too
<@Triadian> well surely the guy would capture it so he doesnt lose his cash first :P
<Araeus_Away> I'm probably just gonna copy paste this conversation to the forums
<Araeus_Away> captures takes longer than disinfects
<Araeus_Away> though
<@Triadian> oh god - ill get even more hatemail
<Araeus_Away> nah
<Araeus_Away> I also want hide and rename processes
<Araeus_Away> that makes for so much more fun you can do
<@Triadian> i was thinking about that
<Araeus_Away> hide your spyware process as a log deleter
<@Triadian> dont really need hide and rename
<@Triadian> sec
<Araeus_Away> otherwise it's too obvious
<@Triadian> let me get a few screenies set up
<Araeus_Away> "hey, look at that giant red [VIRII] tag on that process"
<Araeus_Away> that's gotta be bag
<Araeus_Away> bad
<Araeus_Away> oh, no bw
<Araeus_Away> must be a spyware or a malware... probably spyware since not many ppl run malwares
<Araeus_Away> dur
<@Triadian> but yeah i agree would need to get rid of those [Virii] tags aswell
<Araeus_Away> like
<Araeus_Away> you can have them for processes you own
<Araeus_Away> like
<Araeus_Away> you can have them for processes you own
<Araeus_Away> but otherwise they need to be gone
<@Triadian> just killing the Type column would help the problem and removing the tags
<@Triadian> no real need for new software
<Araeus_Away> YEAH
<Araeus_Away> sorry caps
<Araeus_Away> but then if you could change the name of your running process as well
<Araeus_Away> so you couldn't even really tell if they were running that file
<Araeus_Away> or something else they hid or something
<Araeus_Away> then you actually have to investigate
<@Triadian> but you can do that as part of the research ?
<Araeus_Away> you can change the process name
<Araeus_Away> by changing the file name
<Araeus_Away> but I'm talking about hiding the process
<Araeus_Away> like with file hiding
<Araeus_Away> or even renaming the individual process to something else
<Araeus_Away> so you can't tell you're running that file
<Araeus_Away> maybe even spoof the hardware requirements
<Araeus_Away> then they try to do something that it looks like they should have hardware for and you're like... wait... not enough CPU? But I have like 75% free this says... oh shoot something's hidden/spoofed
<@Triadian> so a software that will allow full changing of any of the process screen numbers
<Araeus_Away> I have to turn on my stuff or go looking for it
<Araeus_Away> yeah, and a revealer type software so you have a chance to get around it

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