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 i'd like to suggest, that there be 3 parts to servers, the public, the firewall buffer, and the private, all the stages containing different things, with private having all of the files and such and firewall buffer containing all of the processes

i don't see how this is unbalanced personally >.> but feel free to comment, and please help me decide where logs should go, i think firewall buffer personally >.>

would be interesting but how would you split it?

just split the cracking parts, so when you hit "crack admin" you can go for either as an option, but you have to get through firewall before you can hit private

So just to make sure I understand you correctly.  You want to add 1 more step to the cracking process?
There is already the Public FTP.  So that is how it looks to me.

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okay, now that thats out of the way!

no, not add another step, change a step!


step 1: connect, now you have public access
step 2: bypass fire wall, now you have firewall buffer access
step 3: crack password, now you have private access

make more sense now????
there are 2 parts to cracking, and you can take one at a time or go for private directly, but it's harder that way, but takes less time

Ohh so you have to run firewall bypass 24/7 <.<?

That already happens.  Why do you think you have a Firewall Bypass and a Password Break?   Do you even play the game?  Because seriously all I see come out of you is what is already on the forums.  And some of the "ideas" you bring up are already part of the  game.

You sir are now the most uber of all.


That is uber failure.

Wow i just noticed, its already seperated, but i think what he's saying is that there should be two steps instead of just pressing start break, and bam your in. Oh i think i like this actually, you can overload your bypass to get to the process list without having to break for the files. This would be another reason to increase defenses.

What's this I see?  Firewall Bypass Software.....  And then OMG is that the password break software?  Holy rusty metal Batman!  Nos suggested a feature already IN THE GAME.


 Checking gateway for Firewall Bypass software...
 Running research file #40886 | SGP Black Ice Drill V1342 V 1.342 V 1.342...
 Target firewall has been bypassed...
 Checking gateway for passwd break software...
 Running SGP Lightning Bolt .500 V 0.5...
 Target admin passwd cache repository found...
Start crack

you are a royal retard......................... and you fail to see any suggestions that are not your own s relevant, i'm saying that the bypass and the crack should be separate steps, if you READ what i post, instead of just attempting to be an idiot (and being UBER good at it), and as it is, in real life there are processes that you can get too without passwords, such as recycling bin and shared documents, yes? which is the reason there should be 2 steps instead of just one, and thank you bobby for saying so, you realize what i am saying instead of ignoring it, and yes, this is meant as a way to balance power, with little guys with good hardware being able to taker those who are larger, but have better software (there should also be an option to overload your protection, makes sense right??? and  have it function as is normal for over load)

Oh some of your suggestions are worthy and I have even complimented you on them.  But this one has become a flame fest.   Have fun flaming away.

You have yet to show you know how to play the game.

As for the Recycle Bin.   Since Win 2000 the Recycle bin is locked to the account.  Anyone with half a brain knows that.   Shared Documents is the same as something set to Public on the servers.  But again you know all.

Now as for an option to overload your protection.  I have thought of that as well.  I think it should be put in the game.  But we shall see.

****EDIT****
Stupid touch pad read a click when I didn't touch it /sigh

lol just remove the post

i had not known that the recycling bin had finally been locked (probably the Japanese who did it >.>) , as it was i knew it to be open for people to get to it (and recover stuff >.>) (this is why old crackers were so successful)

i do not know all, nor do i think so, because i still download instead of making my own, which in and of itself is a conceding to not knowing

and i did not mean this as flame fest, however when someone does insult me i do take offense and will respond accordingly

and yes, touch pads are stupid, might i recommend usb mouse?

Oh I have both versions of the Revo's from Logitech.  Thing is at home I play on my couch while watching movies.  No place to put the mouse or I would use it.  I just need to break down and install the touchpad software one of these days.

Back to topic, i like the idea of splitting the process of breaking into a server into two but, i dont like the idea that they would only have to bypass your firewall to kill your processes..

firewalls are readily available, bypasses are not, and thats another reason for logs to be in private area :P

I agree to the part when you say to split firewall from password. It's not as real as it could be.

It's so obvious: bypass firewall is one thing, password it's another!

It's wrong on the HP, when you get admin acess you do not need firewall bypass...  :21:


Edit: 'pass' changed for 'password'

once you're cracking, you don't need bypass running no, and thanks for revealing useful secret >.>

That was my very first thought when I read Noseedam's suggestion.

yeah  :2:

to see them then? this could go in conjunction with the guest one, i'm trying to suggest is that server be divided into certain areas

It's already divided to the process and files categories and logs actually. But i think what you're saying is that you only need firewall to reach the processes?

look at them, so that you can determine if it's being deleted or something, and so overloads are easier to get to

huhh

>.> the big thing on this is the "balance" in power, makes bigger players have to go more on the defensive, and newbies build up defenses (which they should anyway)

tho i was suggesting to split it up into several pieces, public and private being the same, just with firewall buffer added in between, and give SOME functions before you get private

This shell schema is really plausible.

Ok so reading this I think what you are trying to say is something like this.

You come across a server that under the current way things are done you have to have both the Firewall Bypass and Password Break running.  So if the target has both higher you have to overload both to crack them correct?

Now under the way you are talking about it would instead be like this.

You come across the same server.  You know you can't take it with both programs running even if you overload one or the other or both.  So you just run the firewall bypass and overload it to create a hole in the firewall that stays there.
Then you kill the firewall bypass and fire up the password break.
You overload the password break to get admin.

Is that what you are trying to suggest?

If so then I would highly disagree with this as it makes it far to easy to get around defenses with no way to counter it except by working within a group to bypass it.

actually it makes sense to me, and just make bypasses and breakers in smaller increments...........

I understood the whole thing in another way.

Now, if you want to get in on John's server, you need to run Firewall Bypass to break any Firewall Protection, and then a Password Break to crack the admin acc on remote. Once the PB is done, you have the admin; if you want to access the server again, you don't need Firewall Bypass neither Password Breaker.

I think the proposal is that, once you have the admin access, you need to run Firewall Bypass if any Protection is running on remote. The Firewall Protection is a protection sheel individually, not mixed with Password's.

That was what I got from it.

not quite what i had in mind, but maybe you should have to run bypass to upload, makes sense to me, and would take up resources (besides bandwidth) making it another idea in and of itself tho

I think run Firewll Bypass just should be necessary if a FW Protect is running on client side. It doesn't make sense to me Bypass nothing.

computers always have built in measures, such as windows defender, or windows firewall

WinXP and WinVista have Windows Firewall built in
WinVista has Windows Defender built in
MAC OS X has neither built in
Linux has the best firewall built in but does not have Windows Firewall or Windows Defender installed.

and we all know how secure windows is  :14:

There is!

But you ay want to turn off those applications. That's because I think it should be different.

yes >.> this is true, which is why i wish someone would make a conversion program from windows to linux, unfortunately they use different source codes, so that would be difficult >.> >..< <.<

The good thing of breaking the password is that you do not need the bypassers anymore unles you want to crack the password again.

/signed

Reason: I will be able to overclock my firewall bypasser to 0.6 :) :lol: :lol: :lol: Pretty engough to crack the NPC servers.

if i used my lower firewalls, then i could probably get mine that far............... but takes too much cpu/memory to run my firewalls (both of which are basic's :P)