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Title: Limited Time.
Post by: Ginjitsu on January 15, 2009, 06:13:09 PM
I have made my server into a temporary Repository....I have made my top software currently available to the public...Don't have to worry bout cracking me or anything....Happy Downloading... :)


Title: Re: Limited Time.
Post by: Succubus on January 15, 2009, 08:19:51 PM
IP or GTFO


Title: Re: Limited Time.
Post by: Ginjitsu on January 15, 2009, 08:23:59 PM
sorry....Look at Revelation Day :)  And on a personal note Suc....GTFO?? Who the F**K are you to speak to anyone like that????  I can't wait til i come across your IP.


Title: Re: Limited Time.
Post by: jager on January 15, 2009, 09:03:57 PM
IP or GTFO

That was totally uncalled for for such an offer. I didn't think on rev list too, but at least I asked him nicely for information :-)


Title: Re: Limited Time.
Post by: Sin15698 on January 15, 2009, 10:21:33 PM
IP or GTFO

That was totally uncalled for for such an offer. I didn't think on rev list too, but at least I asked him nicely for information :-)

Sorry for my unworthyness but whats does "GTFO" mean? And I don't think I'll download your files... you'll get my IP  :laugh:


Title: Re: Limited Time.
Post by: Ginjitsu on January 15, 2009, 10:31:20 PM
GTFO=Get The F@@K Out(Off) depending on person......and I wouldn't worry about me getting your IP but that's your call. But I would suggect looking at the files I have available before you make such a statement!! :)  (hint...hint)


Title: Re: Limited Time.
Post by: Sin15698 on January 16, 2009, 06:24:01 PM
GTFO=Get The F@@K Out(Off) depending on person......and I wouldn't worry about me getting your IP but that's your call. But I would suggect looking at the files I have available before you make such a statement!! :)  (hint...hint)

Psshh, I don't think those files are very good... :sweatdrop:


Title: Re: Limited Time.
Post by: Succubus on January 16, 2009, 06:50:04 PM
I guess you guys have never seen people say "T!ts or GTFO" in fun on forums before, only I substituted IP for the word t!ts. Do I need to explain all of my jokes?


Title: Re: Limited Time.
Post by: Ginjitsu on January 16, 2009, 08:56:35 PM
I guess you guys have never seen people say "T!ts or GTFO" in fun on forums before, only I substituted IP for the word t!ts. Do I need to explain all of my jokes?

No not at all...you don't need to explain them just stop making them....they are stupid. Thank you.


Title: Re: Limited Time.
Post by: Succubus on January 16, 2009, 09:58:19 PM
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No not at all...you don't need to explain them just stop making them....they are stupid. Thank you.

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Who the F**K are you to speak to anyone like that????

You must think you're very special.





Title: Re: Limited Time.
Post by: Succubus on January 16, 2009, 10:01:31 PM
(http://i295.photobucket.com/albums/mm160/lisa102373/Funny/funny-pictures-angry-squirrel-leave.jpg?t=1232161207)


Title: Re: Limited Time.
Post by: HJ® on January 16, 2009, 10:07:10 PM
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No not at all...you don't need to explain them just stop making them....they are stupid. Thank you.

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Who the F**K are you to speak to anyone like that????

You must think you're very special.

Ginjitsu is actually respected enough on these forums that if he were to make such a post, people would be there to read it.

You have not. You come from Sh!tHack and expect that you'll be treated the same way here as you are there for your idiocy, and you are wrong.

Simply put, the IQ levels on these boards are higher than that of Sh!tHack, and therefore when you make a post like the one you did, it is treated in a negative way, as opposed to Sh!tHack, where you will surely be met with multiple "Lol roflcopter ham sandwich" posts.

I say good day, troll.


Title: Re: Limited Time.
Post by: Succubus on January 16, 2009, 10:14:11 PM
(http://i295.photobucket.com/albums/mm160/lisa102373/Funny/download2.jpg?t=1232162025)


Title: Re: Limited Time.
Post by: Ginjitsu on January 16, 2009, 11:24:52 PM
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No not at all...you don't need to explain them just stop making them....they are stupid. Thank you.

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Who the F**K are you to speak to anyone like that????

You must think you're very special.


I don't think i'm special in the least....I just don't make posts unless there is a need for it.....I'm not some person who just loves to hear him/her self speak(or in this case post). I don't know what would make you ask something like that but unlike yourself I have no need for extra attention. Have a nice day.


ps...I appreciate the nice words HJ.  :12:


Title: Re: Limited Time.
Post by: Succubus on January 16, 2009, 11:43:05 PM
I didn't ask you anything. I quoted what you said to me.

You take everything too seriously. And to think, people have wondered why these forums are so dead...There's only a couple of people here with any humor. Everyone else has a FOAD attitude toward newbs. You do a fantastic job of making people want to stay.


Title: Re: Limited Time.
Post by: Ginjitsu on January 17, 2009, 12:16:54 AM
« Reply #9 on: January 16, 2009, 09:58:19 PM »

First off read this post you made...you quoted me on 2 seperate posts and then said 

"You must think your very special"

Secondly...again my ignorance but what does FOAD mean??? This is one of the main reasons I usually don't post on here unless it is of relevance cause i don't speak this new younger language many on here seem to speak. Guess it's my age showing.

Third...i have nothing against newbs.

Fourth....I'm not here to make people stay...i'm here to play a game and it is that game and not how people speak on the forums that should determine whether someone stays or not. If the game is good enough then the rest is irrelevant.


Title: Re: Limited Time.
Post by: Succubus on January 17, 2009, 03:34:53 AM
1) I quoted you to point how how caustic you were, even after I said that it was a joke. You cursed at me, and attacked me with a "who do you think you are" attitude, but swinging yours around like you're someone special. Who do YOU think YOU are to talk to others the way that you did me? Exactly. You had a major chip on your shoulder.

2) Google it. I'm a grown woman unfamiliar with much of today's acronymns too, but Google gets me by.

3) It sure seems that you do. "Who the #*(&@ do you think you are" etc. You might ask yourself what makes you so special that you feel welcome to attack me, even after I told you that it was a joke.

4) That's fine, because this is the straw that broke the camel's back. If I was here just for the game, I'd have never joined the forums. I like to cut up and have some comraderie with some fellow players when I'm waiting for a process to complete, for example. I gave this community a fair shot, what, six weeks?

Overall, people here are unfriendly, humorless, hateful, and disrespectful to newbs. I'll be exiting with all of the other players that make good use of the revolving door. Of course, I've got better things to do than spend my free time with people that complain all day about a game that they won't quit, or get cursed and called names on the forums because I disagree with someone. I'm sure there will be a bevy of disparaging comments about me, but before you start dogpiling again, take a moment to recall the other players that got turned off by the bad attitudes and quit too. I've read a couple exit threads for the same b.s., so I know that I'm definitely not the first, and most wouldn't even bother saying goodbye. I live my life with a perma-grin on my face, tongue in my cheek, and always laughing. The environment for a game shouldn't be depressing, but your negativity here has been successful at wearing me down. I tried to bring life to these forums, and the game. Way to go.

Sorry siremi, you lost another good-paying customer, someone who supported the game. They can't blame you for everyone that quits. I totally understand why you don't talk much on the forums. I wish you the best of luck.



Title: Re: Limited Time.
Post by: HJ® on January 17, 2009, 04:13:49 AM
I just want to celebrate another day of livin'
I just want to celebrate another day of life
I put my faith in the people
But the people let me down
So I turned the other way
And I carry on, anyhow
That's why I'm telling you

I just want to celebrate, yeah, yeah
I just want to celebrate, yeah, yeah
Another day of living,
I just want to celebrate another day of life

Had my hand on the dollar bill
And the dollar bill blew away
But the sun is shining down on me
And it's here to stay
That's why I'm telling you

I just want to celebrate, yeah, yeah
Another day of living, yeah
I just want to celebrate another day of living
I just want to celebrate another day of life

Don't let it all get you down,
Don't let it turn you around and around
And around and around

Well, I can't be bothered with sorrow
And I can't be bothered with hate, no, no
I'm using up my time by feeling fine, every day
That's why I'm telling you I just want to celebrate
Aw, yeah
I just want to celebrate yeah yeah
Another day of living, yeah yeah
I just want to celebrate another day of livin', yeah
I just want to celebrate another day of life

Don't let it all get you down, no, no
Don't let it turn you around and around,
And around and around, and around
Around round round
'round and around round round round
don't go 'round


Title: Re: Limited Time.
Post by: Andreas on January 17, 2009, 04:34:45 AM
Couldn't look you in the eye
You're just like an angel,
Your skin makes me cry

You float like a feather
In a beautiful world
I wish I was special
You're so very special

But I'm a creep,
I'm a weirdo
What the hell am I doin' here?
I don't belong here

I don't care if it hurts,
I wanna have control
I want a perfect body
I want a perfect soul

I want you to notice
when I'm not around
You're so very special
I wish I was special

But I'm a creep
I'm a weirdo
What the hell am I doin' here?
I don't belong here, ohhhh, ohhhh

She's running out the door
She's running out
She run run run run...
run... run...

Whatever makes you happy
Whatever you want
You're so very special
I wish I was special

But I'm a creep,
I'm a weirdo
What the hell am I doin' here?
I don't belong here

I don't belong here...


Title: Re: Limited Time.
Post by: Donn on January 17, 2009, 05:30:17 AM
I didn't ask you anything. I quoted what you said to me.

You take everything too seriously. And to think, people have wondered why these forums are so dead...There's only a couple of people here with any humor. Everyone else has a FOAD attitude toward newbs. You do a fantastic job of making people want to stay.


Qft

Sorry guys but I agree on this one. I'm also one of the stupid people since I do take things too seriously sometimes but this has to change in the favor of our community and our new players. We are sometimes taking it way too seriously.


Title: Re: Limited Time.
Post by: Donn on January 17, 2009, 05:32:44 AM
« Reply #9 on: January 16, 2009, 09:58:19 PM »

First off read this post you made...you quoted me on 2 seperate posts and then said 

"You must think your very special"

Secondly...again my ignorance but what does FOAD mean??? This is one of the main reasons I usually don't post on here unless it is of relevance cause i don't speak this new younger language many on here seem to speak. Guess it's my age showing.

Third...i have nothing against newbs.

Fourth....I'm not here to make people stay...i'm here to play a game and it is that game and not how people speak on the forums that should determine whether someone stays or not. If the game is good enough then the rest is irrelevant.


Euh what? You're generalizing now.. A lot of people play a game just for the community (aka the forum or ingame messaging). And if there aren't any players, will you still have as much fun? Think again. Every person who loves playing this game should realize that in order to keep the game alive and fun for you, you need to make sure the new people like it here. Don't be a free rider!


Title: Re: Limited Time.
Post by: Exousia on January 17, 2009, 06:45:38 AM
This thread has been slightly derailed and crashed into an elementary school.


Title: Re: Limited Time.
Post by: Andreas on January 17, 2009, 06:47:28 AM
Euh what? You're generalizing now.. A lot of people play a game just for the community (aka the forum or ingame messaging). And if there aren't any players, will you still have as much fun? Think again. Every person who loves playing this game should realize that in order to keep the game alive and fun for you, you need to make sure the new people like it here. Don't be a free rider!

Ill join up on the bandwagon.
Qft!

Ops, the mod posted before me. Its either you, Ex, or Donn who does that.


Title: Re: Limited Time.
Post by: Ginjitsu on January 17, 2009, 10:23:43 AM
Look.....I put alot of work into where I am now and I decided to be nice and share my good fortune with others and the first post I get is  IP or GTFO.....what kinda crap is that....I made the mistake of assuming that people knew my main server but I was wrong...but instead if hitting me with a post like that all someone had to do is ask....which a couple people did and I informed them.....I'll admit I made the first mistake in that regards but really....is that anyway to speak to someone.

Donn: I wasn't generalizing....I just stating how I feel about things but again I guess I was wrong....while I won't be quitting the game because of the forums I shall refrain from posting here anymore unless it's in regards to a bug.....I will still be grinding along so if anyone needs help with anything feel free to message me ingame.


Title: Re: Limited Time.
Post by: Pendurag on January 17, 2009, 01:52:01 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XtmuXWCFQzE

That song is better.. from 1947 I belive,


Title: Re: Limited Time.
Post by: Sin15698 on January 17, 2009, 02:00:47 PM
Hey, if I quit would I get a bunch of songs for me?  :2:


This thread has been slightly derailed and crashed into an elementary school.

Atleast it's the weekend so nobody is at the school  :5:


Title: Re: Limited Time.
Post by: HJ® on January 17, 2009, 02:05:05 PM
Suckubus was there  :13:


Title: Re: Limited Time.
Post by: Andreas on January 17, 2009, 02:56:23 PM
And I was just outside the school as usual. It took a while before I realized there was no students who could buy my special wares.

Of the Creep reference: Its just 3 rows of houses between my house and my school. Im taking 5 minutes to walk between home and school.


Title: Re: Limited Time.
Post by: Exousia on January 17, 2009, 04:27:14 PM
 :nono:


Title: Re: Limited Time.
Post by: jimmi33 on January 17, 2009, 05:00:42 PM
She is the type of person who will come back.

I wish she would listen to what other people thing sometimes, and maybe get a normal humor.

There is no way in hell: IP or GTFO. Can be a good joke.


Title: Re: Limited Time.
Post by: Andreas on January 18, 2009, 05:48:00 AM
I agree with you, Jimmi.

And yes, HJ, a succabus is a demon so she will just go back to hell until he regains power or someone calls on here. The only way to truly slay a demon is either with holy weapons, making a pact with a stronger demon or go down in hell itself to finish the work. I recommend not to be involved with demons at all.


Title: Re: Limited Time.
Post by: Exousia on January 19, 2009, 05:29:46 PM
Yes, let's all agree with HJ.  :14:

This thread, more than a couple replies past the OP, is epic fail.

Ginjitsu was trying to do something positive for the community, including newbies, and a lynch mob ransacked it. Great job everyone. You've made the HP community look very good here. It was said somewhere basically that, were it not for derailment, this board would be dead. (Sorry, can't remember who it was and I don't have time to go looking for the reference but will add it here if/when it is located at a later time.) Even if it means fewer posts, we should reconsider our policies and practices here on the forum as it is a direct reflection of ourselves.

Whatever your disagreements with an individual, it is inappropriate to derail thread after thread to attack them. I'm not holding anyone blameless here; It takes at least two to fight. It is this kind of immaturity and pettiness that keeps several regular players from bothering with the forum and keeps Sir Emi from being more involved.


Title: Re: Limited Time.
Post by: virus man on January 20, 2009, 01:12:32 AM
Yes, let's all agree with HJ.  :14:

This thread, more than a couple replies past the OP, is epic fail.

Ginjitsu was trying to do something positive for the community, including newbies, and a lynch mob ransacked it. Great job everyone. You've made the HP community look very good here. It was said somewhere basically that, were it not for derailment, this board would be dead. (Sorry, can't remember who it was and I don't have time to go looking for the reference but will add it here if/when it is located at a later time.) Even if it means fewer posts, we should reconsider our policies and practices here on the forum as it is a direct reflection of ourselves.

Whatever your disagreements with an individual, it is inappropriate to derail thread after thread to attack them. I'm not holding anyone blameless here; It takes at least two to fight. It is this kind of immaturity and pettiness that keeps several regular players from bothering with the forum and keeps Sir Emi from being more involved.

Exousia let me say two things.  First thank you for reminding me what it was that made SGP great.  Mature and thoughtful players.  Second this post just goes to show that the ethics and morals I tried to instill in my team members still carries on which makes me one d**n proud leader.


Title: Re: Limited Time.
Post by: Sin15698 on January 20, 2009, 01:12:57 AM
It was said somewhere basically that, were it not for derailment, this board would be dead. (Sorry, can't remember who it was and I don't have time to go looking for the reference but will add it here if/when it is located at a later time.)

If I remember correctly it was succabus (I think I spelled that right) who said that.

It takes at least two to fight.

No it dosen't, you could fight with yourself  :16:


hmmm I want to eat that donut.... :21:
No  I don't I'll become fat!  :4:
mmmm so delicious, just one bite  :dribble:
Nooo! I won't be able to stop myself!  :w00t2:

lol, it could happen  :13:


Title: Re: Limited Time.
Post by: Exousia on January 20, 2009, 03:55:54 AM
It was said somewhere basically that, were it not for derailment, this board would be dead. (Sorry, can't remember who it was and I don't have time to go looking for the reference but will add it here if/when it is located at a later time.)
If I remember correctly it was succabus (I think I spelled that right) who said that.

Maybe, Succubus said it, maybe not, but it just goes to show that she made some accurate assessments here.

It takes at least two to fight.
No it dosen't, you could fight with yourself  :16:

 :21:

That sounds like a personal problem. I recommend you speak to a clergyman or a shrink about those voices.  :laugh:

Yes, let's all agree with HJ.  :14:

This thread, more than a couple replies past the OP, is epic fail.

Ginjitsu was trying to do something positive for the community, including newbies, and a lynch mob ransacked it. Great job everyone. You've made the HP community look very good here. It was said somewhere basically that, were it not for derailment, this board would be dead. (Sorry, can't remember who it was and I don't have time to go looking for the reference but will add it here if/when it is located at a later time.) Even if it means fewer posts, we should reconsider our policies and practices here on the forum as it is a direct reflection of ourselves.

Whatever your disagreements with an individual, it is inappropriate to derail thread after thread to attack them. I'm not holding anyone blameless here; It takes at least two to fight. It is this kind of immaturity and pettiness that keeps several regular players from bothering with the forum and keeps Sir Emi from being more involved.
Exousia let me say two things.  First thank you for reminding me what it was that made SGP great.  Mature and thoughtful players.  Second this post just goes to show that the ethics and morals I tried to instill in my team members still carries on which makes me one d**n proud leader.

I was only in SGP briefly, toward the end of round 1. I learned a lot there, both about the mechanics of Hacker Project and about being part of a community.

The Hacker Project community is in an adolescent stage and it needs to make some cold, hard decisions about its direction. We need to ask ourselves what about it will attract and retain new players as well as keep veteran players interested. We have a very low new account retention rate and an even lower forum activity rate. In the end, we are responsible for the success or failure of the Hacker Project as much as Sir Emi is.

We are the soul of the game.

We need less flame, less bickering, and more camaraderie. We need to make Hacker Project fun both in game and in the forum. I know we all have it in us. I've seen it at least once in everyone who's posted here. There was a moment last round, near the end, when we put aside our differences and fought together against Revelation Day. Even though the game was reset, I think we all felt good for a few days at least, like we were all part of same community whether we supported Revelation or not.

It's good to compete with one another and to jab and taunt one another but we cannot lose sight of the fact that this is a game and it is meant to be enjoyed. The moment we cross the line and make it personal, we are creating drama that simply does not need to exist.

Bearing all this in mind, I think we need to really clean up the forum, post more, get to know each other beyond the pseudonyms and avatars, and really make this community as great as we all know it can be. We have a lot of people who play but don't even have forum accounts, have forum accounts but don't post often or at all, and people who lurk on the forum but don't play. This tells of a great deal of dissension and alienation. Let's make new groups, reinforce existing groups, rebuild game guides, put up repositories, and work to improve the community and the game.

Soap box speech done.  :13:


Title: Re: Limited Time.
Post by: Donn on January 20, 2009, 07:00:00 AM
It has been said before Exousia and nobody answered then..

Don't believe me? Check out my older posts about being a free rider.

There is just too much hate and not enough love in this forum.

Succubus was in my opinion someone who brought some love to the forum and then she makes 1 wrong post after all the bad posts the others made about her.. And everybody says omg what has SHE said.. Pff.. Sad..

I wanted to start doing something for the game but since nobody cares to respond to those topics but cares to flame new people..

I still want to help but not with the same people that were only able to post nuts and help with the flaming.


Title: Re: Limited Time.
Post by: virus man on January 20, 2009, 08:48:19 AM
It has been said before Exousia and nobody answered then..

Don't believe me? Check out my older posts about being a free rider.

There is just too much hate and not enough love in this forum.

Succubus was in my opinion someone who brought some love to the forum and then she makes 1 wrong post after all the bad posts the others made about her.. And everybody says omg what has SHE said.. Pff.. Sad..

I wanted to start doing something for the game but since nobody cares to respond to those topics but cares to flame new people..

I still want to help but not with the same people that were only able to post nuts and help with the flaming.

I don't know Donn.  From my first impression of Succubus on is that she is a drama queen and brings it all on herself.  Even when I tried to end a conversation with her she wanted to continue it which told me it was time to take another Hiatus from the forums.
If she has changed since then, then great.  But I haven't seen anything new from her.  She is still to quick to bite when HJ baits her instead of just moving along and skipping the bait for something tastier ;)

BTW what happened to you?  You wanted to talk the other day and I said I would check my messages when I got home to find nothing new from you.  Everything ok on your end?


Title: Re: Limited Time.
Post by: jimmi33 on January 20, 2009, 11:22:21 AM
It has been said before Exousia and nobody answered then..

Don't believe me? Check out my older posts about being a free rider.

There is just too much hate and not enough love in this forum.

Succubus was in my opinion someone who brought some love to the forum and then she makes 1 wrong post after all the bad posts the others made about her.. And everybody says omg what has SHE said.. Pff.. Sad..

I wanted to start doing something for the game but since nobody cares to respond to those topics but cares to flame new people..

I still want to help but not with the same people that were only able to post nuts and help with the flaming.

Well Donn the love is missing because Emi is missing. If emi acted like a normal developer and ACUTALY did his JOB then he would be makeing som improvement on this game and tons of love would be made But all emi does right now is to gives us a few updates which requirs little time and little effort.


Edit: On a sidenote if anyone like Succubus tells me to quit if i am not satisfied then i won't i am waiting for a new developer so this game can continue. It has a unik gameplay.


Title: Re: Limited Time.
Post by: Andreas on January 20, 2009, 11:33:56 AM
Exactly.

And on a sidenote: Succubus (correct spelling) made her mistake and took some crap when she continued claiming it wasnt Emis mistake that he didnt take care of his job. This is an ended chapter so dont argue. I just explained why she took the nuts.


Title: Re: Limited Time.
Post by: Exousia on January 20, 2009, 03:28:56 PM
I don't think that anyone is holding Succubus blameless, but she did at least try to revitalize things around here. A lot of us are campaigning for change, but it seems as though we are spinning our wheels. Persistence and patience will win out over wrath and animosity. It's good to be passionate about one's cause, but passion without reason to reign it in is a runaway horse.

Debate and dissension are fun, but only by keeping it in the context that we are all friends here and really do all want the same thing will we reduce the hate and the flame and effect positive change. It has been said time and time again that one of the reasons Sir Emi is not as active is because of all the hate and the fame he has to wade through to get to us here. This is very true, yet he does show up and he does at least make some changes in spite of this.

I believe that he would be more active if the environment here was not so hostile. I believe that a lot of people would be more active if the environment were not so hostile. I'm a stubborn SOB so I'm here and there's no getting rid of me. :19: Nevertheless, while a lot of the flame just rolls past me like water off a proverbial duck's back, I think a lot of us are a lot more sensitive than we let on and certainly a lot of newbies come here and see all the FU and FOAD sentiments being thrown about and are afraid to approach us even if we do actually generally reach out and offer advise to newbs who ask for it. I doubt any of us would refuse to answer a sincere question from a newbie. I doubt that any of us want to see anyone leave the game after trying it for only a few days just because of something we said, or allowed to be said, on the forum.


Title: Re: Limited Time.
Post by: jimmi33 on January 20, 2009, 03:49:36 PM
I agree with you Exousia. I can also agree to some of the point of views succubus had but she forgot the think about what all the other people think. We are not the same person so we got different idears. I know that if i was Emi then i woulden't want to read trough all this flame, but he trickered it him self. Since he is the course of the action then he also need to something about it. I know that the second i saw some actualy effort on Emi's side i would blindly follow him for another month or so. But tell me when did he last made a mayor update which actualyed benefittet the game?

I know this is a hard question because we can't agree on that. But i would like to say the update with the power research. Unfortunaly then he didn't gave it much thought about when he releashed it so it ended up being another bad update.

Think about it from my point of view if the developer can't even make a single good update for months what hope is left?

We actualy also gave him a solution to all this flameing. Get a forum mod but not even there have he done anything yet right?

If you owned this game would you do that Exousia tell me with no lies.


Title: Re: Limited Time.
Post by: Exousia on January 20, 2009, 06:06:10 PM
Lies would be pointless. However, one can twist one's definitions conveniently. What is your definition of a major update? I see January 10th as a pretty recent update. http://www.hacker-project.com/forum/index.php?topic=1274.0 (http://www.hacker-project.com/forum/index.php?topic=1274.0) Anything that involves the altering or addition of code is a major update in my opinion as a coder.

Ah, but you then used the qualifier "good" in there too. That is highly subjective. I cannot answer that because my definition of good may differ drastically from yours. The question itself is impossible to answer as any answer I give may be easily dismissed as not being an example of a "good" update due to such and such a drawback.

Get a forum mod? Is a forum mod going to magically waive a wand and everything's fixed? No, he's going to prune the living crap out of this forum and then people are going to gripe at the mod for being a fascist censor. Emi's got two other games with mods, etc, and related experiences to draw upon. I'm sure he's seen mods get burned out on the flame they take as well. A mod, right now, would just be a lightning rod. Some of us could handle that, but most could not. He's just playing it safe. He's used to the flame even if he doesn't like wading through it.

I would do exactly that, too, if I were the forum mod. I would prune the living crap out of this forum and smack a few people around. This would not earn me many "thank yous" now would it? But, in the long run, it would improve the community even if some will be disgruntled now and some may even flame me for my "abuse of power" and leave the game. Sir Emi is playing it safe in order to spare the mod who needs to do these things the flame and the hurt feelings as well as improve the chances of retaining as many of us as possible.

I may have timed some updates differently but the key here that everyone seems to love to ignore is that this game is an incomplete product. That makes it a completely different creature from what we may be accustomed to dealing with. We keep considering this game to be a finished product and basing our flame, gripe, and complaints on that when in fact it's more of an open Beta (or pre-Beta). Updates, minor or major, good or bad, are going to come along in streams as they are relevant to whatever code block he is dealing with according to his agenda or according to the suggestions we put forth. Since we all have different coding methods, he may well be doing exactly what makes the most sense in his mind while we blindly attack him for it. By no means am I exemplifying him as the model developer, but he is not the ignorant fool some like to think he is. As a coder, I choose not to judge beyond my opinion on these matters.

I may not have played some things so safe as he has/does as I, frankly, care little about what people think of me, but that would earn me more flame than he's getting, not less. He's got to choose right now between drastic, sweeping changes or gradual progress. Which would you honestly choose? The best time for major changes is between rounds and few support resets. That means that he's got the added complication of sneaking in gradual changes while holding off the major ones for the resets.


Title: Re: Limited Time.
Post by: Sin15698 on January 20, 2009, 08:17:24 PM
I think a big good update will be fractions. :5: And sorry to point this out but what did this thred start off talking about?  :21: <-- (The mod side of me  :diablo:, how do you like it??? )


Title: Re: Limited Time.
Post by: Deavas on January 20, 2009, 08:31:52 PM
I add this in, just because I am new here.  When I first came into the forum and read some post, I was intimidated by the negativity of certain replies and just plain hate hijacks. I have played a few other games and was active on the forums there , but here , I saw something I wasn't sure I wanted to get into. I Like the game play so I stuck around and realized after talking with some of you that , you are indeed helpful and not all evil.  However just wonder how many other new players have come in here and said " Oh H**l No"  and exit stage left.

Thanks to those that have guided me through, my newbish questions.


Title: Re: Limited Time.
Post by: Exousia on January 20, 2009, 08:50:52 PM
I think a big good update will be fractions.

Like 4/5?  :laugh: Sorry, couldn't resist. I know what you mean.

:5: And sorry to point this out but what did this thred start off talking about?  :21: <-- (The mod side of me  :diablo:, how do you like it??? )

Ginjitsu has made us a repository. You can find it in the Revelation Day list. It has many nice programs. It's named "Fun and Games Dedicated Server" so just click "Connect" then "Public FTP" and there's lots of good stuff there.

I add this in, just because I am new here.  When I first came into the forum and read some post, I was intimidated by the negativity of certain replies and just plain hate hijacks. I have played a few other games and was active on the forums there , but here , I saw something I wasn't sure I wanted to get into. I Like the game play so I stuck around and realized after talking with some of you that , you are indeed helpful and not all evil.  However just wonder how many other new players have come in here and said " Oh H**l No"  and exit stage left.

Thanks to those that have guided me through, my newbish questions.


Exactly my point, thank you, Deavas. It is a shame that this is so because it is a fun game and a fun group of people. I myself played for a good month before I even touched the forum beyond glancing at the guides provided by SGP.

On another note, this thread has been derailed and then the derailment was derailed, so it's a double derail. Some of it needs to be binned while some of it needs to be put in another General Discussion or Whatever thread. This is quite typical of the threads here of late, but it's tough not to respond to the flame and derailment in the threads which they exist.


Title: Re: Limited Time.
Post by: Donn on January 20, 2009, 10:10:45 PM

Ginjitsu has made us a repository. You can find it in the Revelation Day list. It has many nice programs. It's named "Fun and Games Dedicated Server" so just click "Connect" then "Public FTP" and there's lots of good stuff there.

He didn't make a repository, he partially locked his BW.

EDIT: Almost completely locked his BW actually. With locked I mean ofcourse that you can't do nuts about it.

You can't compare this with the old SGP Repository (public one). That was a totally different server, made only to serve as a Repo.. Not a main server from someone.

EDIT2: Before this "repository" was set up, a lot of people were unhappy that the secret servers had such advanced files, ready to be downloaded by any newb. Some even said that it wasn't needed to research anymore because it was so easy to download.

Now that the "repository" has been set up, nobody remembers their own words. We have someone with a huge hardware who is mass researching and putting it up to be downloaded by any newb who reads the forum or checks his Public FTP (except perhaps 5 files).

Another reason not to research anymore, not to start pvp anymore. Just connect to his public ftp and IP Change. His BW is locked and you can have all the files you want without doing any effort.

Thanks Ginjitsu. Really! What a wonderful way of killing the excitement in the game even more.. Perhaps Succubus should have really said FOAD.

Another difference with SGP Repository (public one). It helped newbs, not veteran players. It contained files just above the secret servers, not the best softwares ingame. It didn't cause any harm or was trying to benefit from it.

Pvp? What the hell is that? I just connect to a server, download what I want and change IP dude.. Yeah.. Sucks..


Title: Re: Limited Time.
Post by: Deavas on January 20, 2009, 10:23:05 PM
Download Firewall Protect, 4716h 48m 19s  ,  Umm ....  :confused2:  Thanks for the offer though.


Title: Re: Limited Time.
Post by: Exousia on January 20, 2009, 11:33:38 PM
I don't recall comparing it to the SGP repository, nor did I state that it was a positive thing. There are programs which can be downloaded from this IP. I stated facts, nothing more, in answer to the question regarding the nature of the OP. :16:

If the definition of repository is under debate then I suppose I could concede that it isn't necessarily a repository so much as a server with several programs marked as public. :5:

If you recall, the SGP repository also came under fire for the exact opposite reason; that it did not have the really high end software available. Many people attacked SGP for not making available their "big guns" and hoarding the really powerful software thereby increasing the stranglehold they had on the game while making an outward appearance of kindness toward newbies.


Title: Re: Limited Time.
Post by: Donn on January 20, 2009, 11:58:39 PM
I don't recall comparing it to the SGP repository, nor did I state that it was a positive thing. There are programs which can be downloaded from this IP. I stated facts, nothing more, in answer to the question regarding the nature of the OP. :16:

If the definition of repository is under debate then I suppose I could concede that it isn't necessarily a repository so much as a server with several programs marked as public. :5:

If you recall, the SGP repository also came under fire for the exact opposite reason; that it did not have the really high end software available. Many people attacked SGP for not making available their "big guns" and hoarding the really powerful software thereby increasing the stranglehold they had on the game while making an outward appearance of kindness toward newbies.

Well you did say he was trying to do something positive for the community. I'm just comparing it to the SGP Repo because that is the only example I know of a known Repo for the community.

And if you read my post carefully, you'll know that I've written somewhere "(except perhaps 5 files)".. He does keep some software to himself.

And to be honest, you didn't respond to everything I wrote.. No more research, no more pvp, another way to lock BW,... These are the serious matters I try to address.


Title: Re: Limited Time.
Post by: Exousia on January 21, 2009, 01:42:08 AM

Well you did say he was trying to do something positive for the community. I'm just comparing it to the SGP Repo because that is the only example I know of a known Repo for the community.

:confused2: Very few people would have caught that. *I* had to go back and look to be sure. I like that you keep me honest.

Alright, I guess I understand that now. I'll elaborate further below.

And if you read my post carefully, you'll know that I've written somewhere "(except perhaps 5 files)".. He does keep some software to himself.

And to be honest, you didn't respond to everything I wrote.. No more research, no more pvp, another way to lock BW,... These are the serious matters I try to address.

I may have misunderstood the emphasis of the post then, forgive me.

No more research? The SGP repo at least left some room for improvement. This one may top things out, or at least come close, but people are going to want to have that edge. I can see a threat to research but it doesn't seem all that great. The updates slowed things down, but parallel research and group research is still possible in my opinion.

No more PvP? Last I checked, PvP is an endangered species here as it is. More drastic changes may be required to revitalize it, but I'd also like to read more about your views on the state of PvP and possible solutions. BW blocking is all too easy and install times are pretty high... It needs work.

Another way to block BW? Yeah, it took me a moment of reflection to figure this one out, but I suppose that this would effectively clog the lines with transfers and disallow uploads of virii, preventing attack. This ties in to PvP I suppose. What would you suggest? A program which forces bandwidth open that can only be stopped if the target cracks the attacker and stops the process, meanwhile the program gradually frees up BW for the attacker server to use in transfers (up or down)? (Has that been suggested yet?)


Title: Re: Limited Time.
Post by: Ginjitsu on January 21, 2009, 10:10:32 AM
Donn.....all this posting of yours sounds like nothing more than sour grapes. I think your just upset that you can't just walk in and hack me anymore and steal MY RESEARCH whenever you want. Did i do this to block my BW so you and the few who could actually crack me couldn't just walk in and steal what you want....YES I DID. It's called strategy....it may not be to your liking but I just used what I had to make my position better....i'm sorry if you don't like it but that's too bad....It's funny you keep throwing out the saying free rider but basically from what I can see about your gameplay you just hack and steal everyone elses work  so wouldn't that make you a free rider as well living off the work of others??  I'm not aware of any research you've done(I may be wrong). If i'm wrong then please let me know...this is not meant to be a flame. I am asking in all sincerity.

You say by what i'm doing I basically killed PvP...well let me ask you this...besides hacking me everyday what other PvP do you do?????? From my understanding PvP means Player vs Player....when is the last time this game had any REAL PvP action going??? I would say it was mostly near the end of last round when everyone was jockeying for position in the top 10 before the reset. There has been to this point in round 2 no real PvP and while my setting up this "Repo" maybe contributing to the lack of said PvP play it was dead long before.

On a side note....what does FOAD mean??


Title: Re: Limited Time.
Post by: Andreas on January 21, 2009, 10:16:19 AM
Heres a valueable link (http://tinyurl.com/7z32pp/)


Title: Re: Limited Time.
Post by: Araeus on January 21, 2009, 11:48:53 AM
Heres a valueable link (http://tinyurl.com/7z32pp/)

AHAHAHAHAHA

I like it.


Title: Re: Limited Time.
Post by: Donn on January 21, 2009, 11:52:25 AM
Donn.....all this posting of yours sounds like nothing more than sour grapes. I think your just upset that you can't just walk in and hack me anymore and steal MY RESEARCH whenever you want. Did i do this to block my BW so you and the few who could actually crack me couldn't just walk in and steal what you want....YES I DID. It's called strategy....it may not be to your liking but I just used what I had to make my position better....i'm sorry if you don't like it but that's too bad....It's funny you keep throwing out the saying free rider but basically from what I can see about your gameplay you just hack and steal everyone elses work  so wouldn't that make you a free rider as well living off the work of others??  I'm not aware of any research you've done(I may be wrong). If i'm wrong then please let me know...this is not meant to be a flame. I am asking in all sincerity.

You say by what i'm doing I basically killed PvP...well let me ask you this...besides hacking me everyday what other PvP do you do?????? From my understanding PvP means Player vs Player....when is the last time this game had any REAL PvP action going??? I would say it was mostly near the end of last round when everyone was jockeying for position in the top 10 before the reset. There has been to this point in round 2 no real PvP and while my setting up this "Repo" maybe contributing to the lack of said PvP play it was dead long before.

On a side note....what does FOAD mean??

Make a decent post first OK Ginjitsu? And if you want PVP, I'll give you some soon enough. Don't forget who you're talking to.


Title: Re: Limited Time.
Post by: Ginjitsu on January 21, 2009, 12:06:54 PM
Donn.....all this posting of yours sounds like nothing more than sour grapes. I think your just upset that you can't just walk in and hack me anymore and steal MY RESEARCH whenever you want. Did i do this to block my BW so you and the few who could actually crack me couldn't just walk in and steal what you want....YES I DID. It's called strategy....it may not be to your liking but I just used what I had to make my position better....i'm sorry if you don't like it but that's too bad....It's funny you keep throwing out the saying free rider but basically from what I can see about your gameplay you just hack and steal everyone elses work  so wouldn't that make you a free rider as well living off the work of others??  I'm not aware of any research you've done(I may be wrong). If i'm wrong then please let me know...this is not meant to be a flame. I am asking in all sincerity.

You say by what i'm doing I basically killed PvP...well let me ask you this...besides hacking me everyday what other PvP do you do?????? From my understanding PvP means Player vs Player....when is the last time this game had any REAL PvP action going??? I would say it was mostly near the end of last round when everyone was jockeying for position in the top 10 before the reset. There has been to this point in round 2 no real PvP and while my setting up this "Repo" maybe contributing to the lack of said PvP play it was dead long before.

On a side note....what does FOAD mean??

Make a decent post first OK Ginjitsu? And if you want PVP, I'll give you some soon enough. Don't forget who you're talking to.


I see...I ask a couple valid questionis and get nothing but a threat in return ....Got it. Thanks Donn...that's all I needed to know.  :7:


Title: Re: Limited Time.
Post by: virus man on January 21, 2009, 12:32:47 PM
PvP in a game where there is none possible.   For there to be PvP there has to be the risk of loss.  Since there is no risk of loss there can be no PvP.

Please someone prove me wrong ;)


Title: Re: Limited Time.
Post by: Andreas on January 21, 2009, 12:54:15 PM
Youre right.
Oh, I was supposed to prove you wrong. My misstake but it is a bit mean to challenge someone to do the impossible.


Title: Re: Limited Time.
Post by: Donn on January 21, 2009, 01:05:24 PM
Donn.....all this posting of yours sounds like nothing more than sour grapes. I think your just upset that you can't just walk in and hack me anymore and steal MY RESEARCH whenever you want. Did i do this to block my BW so you and the few who could actually crack me couldn't just walk in and steal what you want....YES I DID. It's called strategy....it may not be to your liking but I just used what I had to make my position better....i'm sorry if you don't like it but that's too bad....It's funny you keep throwing out the saying free rider but basically from what I can see about your gameplay you just hack and steal everyone elses work  so wouldn't that make you a free rider as well living off the work of others??  I'm not aware of any research you've done(I may be wrong). If i'm wrong then please let me know...this is not meant to be a flame. I am asking in all sincerity.

You say by what i'm doing I basically killed PvP...well let me ask you this...besides hacking me everyday what other PvP do you do?????? From my understanding PvP means Player vs Player....when is the last time this game had any REAL PvP action going??? I would say it was mostly near the end of last round when everyone was jockeying for position in the top 10 before the reset. There has been to this point in round 2 no real PvP and while my setting up this "Repo" maybe contributing to the lack of said PvP play it was dead long before.

On a side note....what does FOAD mean??

Locking your BW isn't what Emi likes to see because he shares my opinion: it kills the PVP. Thats why he fixed the locking bw with your own virii, a few days ago..

You can not compare being a free rider towards the game with profiting from someone else's research ingame. I will still do my best to help the game evolve into a good game with a good community, you won't by being a free rider in your own way.

You have no idea what softwares I have stolen and have not and from who. Perhaps I traded software or got lucky or had some help from friends. You just don't know. I'm not going to talk about my strategies also because that would be plain stupid.

By the way: do remember Ginjitsu, that you have profited from my research in round 1 also. So don't come and tell me that profiting from someone else his research is something bad and shouldn't be done. Cause being a free rider the way I describe it, is something bad and shouldn't be done.

And again Im not going to tell you who I have hacked and who I have have teased. I have the highest Log Deleter ingame at the moment so I could be anywhere if I wanted to.

And its not because the PVP is dead, according to you, that you should keep it that way. Its still considered wrong to shoot a dead person in the face. You didn't kill him but we don't appreciate it lol.

By setting up a Repo you have proven that you are a coward since you do not have the nuts to defend yourself against me except if you are helped by ingame tricks. Should have thought about getting Revelation on your main server a bit more careful next time.

You have removed the excitement of finding a high version of a file and trying to download it.

You have removed the excitement of researching a file.

How?

Every sending download process has to be killed on the server which started the process. But because a lot of people IP changed (ofcourse), you have successfully locked your BW.

Now you can easily research whatever you want without anyone being able to download those files.

People can easily download the "best" softwares ingame without having to learn how to play the game and without enjoying the excitement of getting the best softwares..

You..

f**k it. Nobody cares.


Title: Re: Limited Time.
Post by: HJ® on January 21, 2009, 02:05:43 PM
I'll agree with what appears to be the majority here, this game needs more PvP.


Title: Re: Limited Time.
Post by: virus man on January 21, 2009, 02:42:42 PM
I'll agree with what appears to be the majority here, this game needs more PvP.

STFU traitor.   I still love ya bro don't worry ;)


Title: Re: Limited Time.
Post by: Ginjitsu on January 21, 2009, 07:31:36 PM
Well then do me this Donn....explain to me exactally what you mean when you call someone a free rider so I can better understand. thanks :)


Title: Re: Limited Time.
Post by: Sin15698 on January 22, 2009, 12:10:23 AM
Quote from: Exousia
Like 4/5?    :laugh: Sorry, couldn't resist. I know what you mean.

 :laugh: that was a good one, I didn't even think of that when I posted  :laugh: .....4/5 :laugh: hahaha......ha.......haha..............ha 4/5...............


Title: Re: Limited Time.
Post by: Exousia on January 22, 2009, 12:33:42 AM
Quote from: Exousia
Like 4/5?    :laugh: Sorry, couldn't resist. I know what you mean.
:laugh: that was a good one, I didn't even think of that when I posted  :laugh: .....4/5 :laugh: hahaha......ha.......haha..............ha 4/5...............

You mock me.  :2:


Title: Re: Limited Time.
Post by: Donn on January 22, 2009, 05:44:25 AM
Well then do me this Donn....explain to me exactally what you mean when you call someone a free rider so I can better understand. thanks :)

Quote from: Psychology of a free rider

Many of you have most likely encountered a "free rider" in your lifetimes. Maybe your experience has been with housemates letting their dirty dishes pile so high that you lose kitchenette privileges, until one brave housemate takes down the 25 Easy Mac-encrusted, two-week-old plates to the main house kitchen. Or, maybe your experience has been witnessing a frustrated neighbor finally call the local town ordinance about fixing up the public school's playground. Whatever the situation may be, the people who casually sat back and waited for someone else to take action wholeheartedly earn the title of "free riders." Their mentality is that problem X will become so unbearable to live with that some person in direct contact with problem X will finally take action. In theory, the problem will eventually get solved, even if it is hours, weeks or centuries later.

This mentality might be excusable when it comes to smelly dishes or broken-down playgrounds, but it certainly should not carry over into the world arena. Unfortunately, the "free rider" mentality is one right in front of our eyes and no, not just outside of our homes or our dorms. Darfur, Palestine, Burma, Rwanda and Tibet all serve as perfect examples of the world expecting someone else to just "take care of it." Of course everyone says, "Oh, genocide? Terrible. Forced occupation and no right of return? Despicable!" Despite the rhetoric, nothing is taken care of. What is it about the need for collective action in times of genocide, ethnic and religious persecution and occupation that has the entire world population completely stumped?

You complain about no PVP in the game and about mistakes that Emi has made. We can all easily make this game a lot more interesting. Yet you and many others decide to leave that to other people. You are enjoying this game but do not care about the game itself. You could make some effort to attract more players to the game. That would probably make Emi realize that this game isn't dead yet (like you think it is) but is indeed very much alive and needs some updates and fast!

At the moment, always the same people complain about the game. Imagine we have 100 new people playing the game and they would all start whining also. Forum activity +200% lol.

I have mailed several new people playing the game with a welcome message and offered to help them. A while ago me and HJ were planning to advertise the game a bit more but due to my exams, that has been slacking.. Sorry about that HJ!

You complain about the fact that there is no PVP and at the same time you help killing the PVP by using all sorts of tricks to make sure nobody does PVP against you..

You my friend, are a free rider. Just like many other people in here who just complain but don't do anything about it and even help kill the game.

I am not talking about Ebolla, HJ, Exousia, other people in here who have complained too but have already done enough to help this game get better. So guys, do not think because you whine on the forum that I'm saying you're a free rider.

Btw, Ginjitsu.. Although we aren't exactly good friends at the moment, I'd like to hear your new plans with that Revelation. Cause I don't like to see it being researched..


Title: Re: Limited Time.
Post by: Ginjitsu on January 22, 2009, 09:12:08 AM
Well then do me this Donn....explain to me exactally what you mean when you call someone a free rider so I can better understand. thanks :)

Quote from: Psychology of a free rider

Many of you have most likely encountered a "free rider" in your lifetimes. Maybe your experience has been with housemates letting their dirty dishes pile so high that you lose kitchenette privileges, until one brave housemate takes down the 25 Easy Mac-encrusted, two-week-old plates to the main house kitchen. Or, maybe your experience has been witnessing a frustrated neighbor finally call the local town ordinance about fixing up the public school's playground. Whatever the situation may be, the people who casually sat back and waited for someone else to take action wholeheartedly earn the title of "free riders." Their mentality is that problem X will become so unbearable to live with that some person in direct contact with problem X will finally take action. In theory, the problem will eventually get solved, even if it is hours, weeks or centuries later.

This mentality might be excusable when it comes to smelly dishes or broken-down playgrounds, but it certainly should not carry over into the world arena. Unfortunately, the "free rider" mentality is one right in front of our eyes and no, not just outside of our homes or our dorms. Darfur, Palestine, Burma, Rwanda and Tibet all serve as perfect examples of the world expecting someone else to just "take care of it." Of course everyone says, "Oh, genocide? Terrible. Forced occupation and no right of return? Despicable!" Despite the rhetoric, nothing is taken care of. What is it about the need for collective action in times of genocide, ethnic and religious persecution and occupation that has the entire world population completely stumped?

You complain about no PVP in the game and about mistakes that Emi has made. We can all easily make this game a lot more interesting. Yet you and many others decide to leave that to other people. You are enjoying this game but do not care about the game itself. You could make some effort to attract more players to the game. That would probably make Emi realize that this game isn't dead yet (like you think it is) but is indeed very much alive and needs some updates and fast!

At the moment, always the same people complain about the game. Imagine we have 100 new people playing the game and they would all start whining also. Forum activity +200% lol.

I have mailed several new people playing the game with a welcome message and offered to help them. A while ago me and HJ were planning to advertise the game a bit more but due to my exams, that has been slacking.. Sorry about that HJ!

You complain about the fact that there is no PVP and at the same time you help killing the PVP by using all sorts of tricks to make sure nobody does PVP against you..

You my friend, are a free rider. Just like many other people in here who just complain but don't do anything about it and even help kill the game.

I am not talking about Ebolla, HJ, Exousia, other people in here who have complained too but have already done enough to help this game get better. So guys, do not think because you whine on the forum that I'm saying you're a free rider.

Btw, Ginjitsu.. Although we aren't exactly good friends at the moment, I'd like to hear your new plans with that Revelation. Cause I don't like to see it being researched..


Well i'll be honest....I don't really see how I fall into this free rider catagory but be that as it may.....Mostly I think you have me confused with someone else........I may have spoke about a lack of PvP in response to previous posts but I personally haven't complained about it.

As far as Rev goes....i've already told you EXACTALLY what my plans are with it and as of this time they havn't changed.


Title: Re: Limited Time.
Post by: Ginjitsu on January 22, 2009, 09:50:52 AM
Well after much discussion....i've closed up shop....repo closed....happy hacking :)


Title: Re: Limited Time.
Post by: Exousia on January 22, 2009, 03:31:15 PM
One day I heard someone screaming outside my apartment. My wife looked out and found that one of our neighbors, a disabled war vet, had slipped off his stoop, automated wheel chair and all, and another somewhat less able woman from another unit was attempting to lift him up while he was still falling slowly on top of her, both helpless to fix their situation and both in danger of serious injury because they were falling toward the sharp edges of an external air conditioning unit's weather housing. Ours was the unit furthest from the incident, but we were the first to act. My wife, without explaining, told me to come outside and I did so without question. As I followed her at a dead run across the parking lot, I saw what was going on. None of the other tenants even showed their faces until after we had lifted him from his precarious position and safely replaced him on his stoop. Only then, after the danger was passed, after someone else had taken care of it, did they come out to gawk, excuses for inaction readily available as if they had practiced this many times before.

This "free rider" concept which you have so painstakingly examined intrigues me, Donn. I've not seen such an idea expanded to the world arena in such a way then have it applied back down to a micro scale such as HP. It's a concept which I often refer to as "laziness" but have not conceptualized so concretely. I may have to steal it! :laugh:

You've basically summed up my feelings about the HP community right now, so I have nothing to add except agreement.


Title: Re: Limited Time.
Post by: Sin15698 on January 22, 2009, 07:22:42 PM
Quote from: Exousia
Like 4/5?    :laugh: Sorry, couldn't resist. I know what you mean.
:laugh: that was a good one, I didn't even think of that when I posted  :laugh: .....4/5 :laugh: hahaha......ha.......haha..............ha 4/5...............

You mock me.  :2:

Not really... :21: I just thought it was a good joke :confused2:


Title: Re: Limited Time.
Post by: Exousia on January 22, 2009, 08:25:49 PM
Quote from: Exousia
Like 4/5?    :laugh: Sorry, couldn't resist. I know what you mean.
:laugh: that was a good one, I didn't even think of that when I posted  :laugh: .....4/5 :laugh: hahaha......ha.......haha..............ha 4/5...............

You mock me.  :2:

Not really... :21: I just thought it was a good joke :confused2:

Not really? So you admit you mocked me! :16:


Title: Re: Limited Time.
Post by: Sin15698 on January 23, 2009, 01:01:41 AM
No I didn't mean it that way  :no2: .......(how can I tell him I wasn't being mean when everything I saw makes it worse...) uhhh...... Do you want a cookie???


Title: Re: Limited Time.
Post by: setech on January 23, 2009, 03:59:56 AM
Oh boy, what a tone of voice. I'm kind of embarrassed that Succubus actually showed such a primitive behavior. One thing is for sure, his avatar is a lie.

- sorry to interrupt


Title: Re: Limited Time.
Post by: virus man on January 23, 2009, 04:00:38 AM
No I didn't mean it that way  :no2: .......(how can I tell him I wasn't being mean when everything I saw makes it worse...) uhhh...... Do you want a cookie???

So you go condesending on him?  Sheesh dude.  Ok everyone play with his servers and have fun.  peace out.


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Title: Re: Limited Time.
Post by: Exousia on January 23, 2009, 05:15:37 AM
Oh boy, what a tone of voice. I'm kind of embarrassed that Succubus actually showed such a primitive behavior. One thing is for sure, his avatar is a lie.

- sorry to interrupt

Interrupt what? There's at least three derailed threads stacked here.  :laugh:


Title: Re: Limited Time.
Post by: Sin15698 on January 23, 2009, 06:27:04 PM
And it's soon to be four! So to get this conversation started I'll start with the best conversation starter every!

What color is your toothbrush?  :13:


Title: Re: Limited Time.
Post by: jager on January 23, 2009, 06:30:40 PM
And it's soon to be four! So to get this conversation started I'll start with the best conversation starter every!

What color is your toothbrush?  :13:

vanilla ice cream


Title: Re: Limited Time.
Post by: Sin15698 on January 23, 2009, 06:32:48 PM
And it's soon to be four! So to get this conversation started I'll start with the best conversation starter every!

What color is your toothbrush?  :13:

vanilla ice cream

Is that a color or a flavor???


Title: Re: Limited Time.
Post by: Exousia on January 23, 2009, 06:40:57 PM
And it's soon to be four! So to get this conversation started I'll start with the best conversation starter every!

What color is your toothbrush?  :13:

Seven.


Title: Re: Limited Time.
Post by: Sin15698 on January 23, 2009, 06:45:55 PM
And it's soon to be four! So to get this conversation started I'll start with the best conversation starter every!

What color is your toothbrush?  :13:

Seven.


OMG, people come on, I said color!

I just have to use that thing donn used it was sooo cool

Click on me! :5: (http://letmegooglethatforyou.com/?q=define: color)


Title: Re: Limited Time.
Post by: Exousia on January 23, 2009, 06:47:47 PM
Seven is a color. It's an amber-yellow on the Rosco color pallet used in lighting if I recall correctly.  :7:


Title: Re: Limited Time.
Post by: Sin15698 on January 23, 2009, 06:49:26 PM
 :confused2: You lost me what?........I never liked art...... but now I'm terrified of it  :nervous1:


Title: Re: Limited Time.
Post by: Exousia on January 23, 2009, 06:52:42 PM
I was trained as a lighting designer for theatre. We got to know colors by numbers pretty quick.


Title: Re: Limited Time.
Post by: Sin15698 on January 23, 2009, 06:54:01 PM
So it was just a shortcut way of reffering to colors?


Title: Re: Limited Time.
Post by: Exousia on January 23, 2009, 07:00:12 PM
Yeah, since there were well over a thousand of them. You could learn the names like "Deep Aqua Blue," "Midnight Blue," "Rose Petal Red," "Blood Crimson," and "Diffused Metallic Cyan" or you could just say 45, 80, 23, 178, and 671.

Those are some of the easier names. I once saw one that was "Metallic Diffused Grey Sunset Orange-Red" #15091.


Title: Re: Limited Time.
Post by: Sin15698 on January 23, 2009, 07:03:45 PM
So you used them almost like acronyms? Like people use "rofl" "lmao" and stuff like that?  :laugh:


Title: Re: Limited Time.
Post by: Exousia on January 23, 2009, 07:04:43 PM
So you used them almost like acronyms? Like people use "rofl" "lmao" and stuff like that?  :laugh:

You cheeky monkey!

You actually burned me!


Title: Re: Limited Time.
Post by: Sin15698 on January 23, 2009, 07:05:32 PM
 :laugh: Got you contradicting yourself  :atention:


Title: Re: Limited Time.
Post by: Exousia on January 23, 2009, 07:07:02 PM
:laugh: Got you contradicting yourself  :atention:

A point for Sin then. You're still only maybe third place on HP and fourth overall.


Title: Re: Limited Time.
Post by: Sin15698 on January 23, 2009, 07:07:54 PM
:laugh: Got you contradicting yourself  :atention:

A point for Sin then. You're still only maybe third place on HP and fourth overall.

In what ranking is that? I seem to be doing good on it  :laugh:

Can you tell me who else I'm up against? I like to image my enimies face as I grind them into the dust! :11:


Title: Re: Limited Time.
Post by: Exousia on January 23, 2009, 07:09:32 PM
It's a short list of those who've outwitted Exousia.

On HP it's Donn, Virus Man, and Sin.

Overall, my wife tops you all.


Title: Re: Limited Time.
Post by: Sin15698 on January 23, 2009, 07:10:30 PM
It's a short list of those who've outwitted Exousia.

On HP it's Donn, Virus Man, and Sin.

Overall, my wife tops you all.

Dang, I predicted you would say your wife was first even though I didn't know what the list was about  :confused2:


Title: Re: Limited Time.
Post by: Exousia on January 23, 2009, 07:12:18 PM
Pfft! You think I'm good at debate or anything, try to get one over on her. Even if she's wrong and I know for a cold hard fact that she's wrong, she can make me doubt. I'm sure she'd have found a way to weasel out of that whole acronym thing rather than just say, "Ah, you burned me!"


Title: Re: Limited Time.
Post by: Sin15698 on January 23, 2009, 07:15:15 PM
I doubt it!  :13: my brother is like that, but I ussually walk away knowing he'll never understand what I was trying to prove to him. But my best friend always loses arguments to me. And my mom will eventually just say "Because I said so" or "If your not going to do ____ then you can leave"  :laugh:


Title: Re: Limited Time.
Post by: Exousia on January 23, 2009, 07:21:22 PM
That sounds like a challenge.  :bodyguard:


Title: Re: Limited Time.
Post by: virus man on January 24, 2009, 12:58:59 AM
Hey Ginjistu,
 Thank you for the limited time you had your repo open.  I was able to get most of the software and being that I have not been as active as many it helped me to catch up.  Again thank you.


Title: Re: Limited Time.
Post by: DamascuS on January 24, 2009, 10:31:30 AM
I myself didnt get any of the software, not because of being unable, but because i chose not to. But it was nice seeing that last post by ebolla.

So on behalf of all the people who havnt posted here, for whatever reason, i thank you also. It was a really good thing you did there, and showed more than just commitment to the game. Thank you Ginjitsu.

[rant]

And to the rest of you. Why couldn't you have just done the same!? After all, most of you have probably downloaded software from his server right? So where is his thanks? Instead, yet again, you all turn this thread into a slanging match between your pre-pubescent acronym game, or whatever that was. Grow up people, Ginjitsu did a good thing here, recognize it!

[/rant]


Title: Re: Limited Time.
Post by: Andreas on January 24, 2009, 12:46:16 PM
+1 for Damascus

Emi, please give us a reputation system.


Title: Re: Limited Time.
Post by: Exousia on January 24, 2009, 04:27:04 PM
True true.

I was one of the ones who let things get sidetracked, for that I apologize. I should have set a better example and stuck to my original guns "Ginjitsu tried to do a nice thing here...." but I got distracted by crap. I will learn from it and do better in the future.

I'd say +1 Virus Man and +1 Damascus if we had a rep system.

I never actually downloaded any of the software either, but not from lack of trying. Things were a little gummed up, so I know a few people benefited.


Title: Re: Limited Time.
Post by: Sin15698 on January 25, 2009, 01:26:44 AM
I don't like the rep system  :10: I had -100 in spaceo......

And I'll follow the crowd now. Good job Ginjitsu, I know a few people you helpped out alot from what you've done. :)


Title: Re: Limited Time.
Post by: Donn on January 25, 2009, 05:09:23 AM
Lol so many sheeps in here.

I still think he made a mistake. But I understand how it has helped other people and why those people are grateful.