The Hacker Project - a free online game

It came to my attention that is now far easier to disinfect virii than it is to install them.

My suggestion is for dis-infects to follow the same system as installing a virii does.

thoughts?

I like that idea, but... ;)

...getting close to reality would be to have the removal process take up to 50% more time than installing them, as those buggers like to dig their heels in deep.

The time it takes to disinfet is get close to the installing your right so maybe it should take longer to disinfect?

not time, i meant AP.

it costs around 107 to install a v2 adware, more to upload it and more aps on top of that to hide it

yet just 20 to disinfect it =/

what about system resources needed to disinfect? It takes 50 CPU to activate a 2.0 adware virus and ~5000 CPU to disinfect...

We can BUY system resources, but we can't buy AP. They're on two entirely different levels. One is potentially unlimited, and the other is incredibly limited. I agree that disinfects should take virus version into account; as it stands, disinfecting the the only real way to make money.

I still think the best way to stop the problems of these poeple disinfecting viriis and others constently remaking viriis is to add more public and secert servers. Or if you dont like that them maybe if all the public and secert servers get more bandwidth and CPU mhz.

maybe there should be a donation thing on the public servers.............  :5:  :5:  :5:  :5:  :5:  :5:  :5:

The problem isn't that people are disinfecting virii to reinfect the servers - they're disinfecting because there's such a huge payout for only 20 AP.

nah, the viruses payout / hour is much better.

I've been working on trying to even out the upload / install costs and profits
vs.
the disinfect costs and profits

There is a tendency to specialize in virus installation on one part, and virus disinfection on the other. So we're looking at players who will install and those who will disinfect and eat the others viruses.

While monitoring the progress, the disinfect specialists are still losing the battle, probably because they don't have the viruses as passive income. The file share virus seems to be on top of things, even if it lasts a bit less now with new players coming in.

i'm a virus person, and as far as i can see, virii is MUCH better than disinfect, we wait, and make money by our patience, the disinfecters would have to work 34/7 to keep up with us, and also i can encrypt something and no one under a certain power will be able to even touch it, and so we get the better end

Encrypt does nothing to prevent disinfection.

As you are sure to find out.

Well I guess you're correct here seremi.
Its hard to keep up with the virus people since they keep on researching new virus strains and they have the money for it.

i wish.

it takes more and more aps to install virii the bigger and better they get, whilst an anti-virus stays at 20ap's.

all things considered, i will take out the money factor since bigger disinfect missions = more money

In my position, i would be far more inclined to start dis-infecting since cpu power isnt an issue.

an ip change later, and im in a guaranteed money-making cycle.

I don't believe I'm actually about to show the general populace what a great deal virii currently are... Let's take the stats of a .328 fileshare, my old standard, shall we?

A .328 fileshare virus makes 196.8 HPD/hour. Disinfecting this virus takes 43.3 hours. Therefore the total payout for installing this virus is 8,521.44HPD. Installing this virus costs 137 AP.

Disinfecting a fileshare virus also takes 43.3 hours, but the payout is 14321.21. This costs 20AP.

Installing the virus has a payout of 62.2hpd/ap. Disinfecting it has a payout of 716.1hpd/ap. You tell me - which one is a better deal?

I think the AV ap cost should scale with the virus level just like the install does, it only makes sense that it should be more work to uninstall a virus that took more work to install.

Ah you don't want that.  Just simply find a server you like.  Install 5 Virii on it.  Start disinfect on all 5.  Locate the missions for the 80% thing and kill the disinfect on the ones without missions.

Boom you have a win win scenario.   Why do you think SGP is no longer putting up gobs of Virii?  We are disinfecting them ourselves!

Heh... too much work... how do you go through all those secret servers to find the missions for your own virus?

I will give you a hint.  Use Tabs

lets not even consider the win-win scenario.

Let's assume i dont want to power game that much, to exploit a neccessary means to get ahead.

i just want to install my virii on my servers, and maintain them.

AT the current rate i can re-instate maybe 13 a day (awake), standard upload, install and hide considered at my level

Now, lets consider there is only ONE other person out there. AT current trend not only am i now making a ridiculious loss in ap/hpd ratio (as kindly stated before me) i am simply handing money over to him. In fact, the only way not to do this is the method stated by virus man.

Now multiply the problem several times over. As stated, it is far more profitable, and ap-efficent, to do dis-infect missions. And with that god-mode ip changer, it is efficent, effective and impossible to stop.

Or is the idea of the game now to go around in a repetative cycle? virii build up, mass virii dis-infection stage where every virii rots, then there are no more virii... except here the cycle ends because it just isnt profitable. Unless we start setting up our own servers to infect o_O

I'm sure that's exactly what this game is supposed to be - I've got nearly 200K worth of disinfect missions queued up.

Hey Maw! Hey Paw! Ima gonna be rich!

I am working on a way to even the odds out, you just keep disinfecting the virii that where installed without using AP before the implementation of the AP system, and then we could balance the disinfect process AP costs.

Here's the key problem, as I see it - every change implemented seems to make the game more restrictive and limits what you can do. For example, the AP change limited the best way to make money to disinfect missions. If you make disinfects cost more without rebalancing other parts of the game, all you've done is make that people can play less; in fact, I think some people may start playing so little that they stop altogether.