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Title: bloody rediculus
Post by: drakna on October 29, 2008, 11:26:27 AM
who ever came up with the idea of not removing a mission from being able to be accepted by others must have been taking roofers that day or something. i cant find a mission i can do cause every mission i take has some other wanker doing it with a 6 hours lead. well for the big ones for the other not so big  ones they already got someone almost done thom i aint going to waste 5 hours just to find out someone else completed it.

it's bloody insane yhow is a newnbie supposed to make any decent cash when every mission worth any good hpd has been taken


Title: Re: bloody rediculus
Post by: Donn on October 29, 2008, 11:45:54 AM
Use your brains?

Press Ctrl+F (search function) and copy paste in the box the code of the file needed to delete. If you cant find it in the running software, it means nobody is deleting it. Then go to programs, press enter in the search function box and bla bla bla..


Title: Re: bloody rediculus
Post by: Ginjitsu on October 29, 2008, 11:51:06 AM
Look missions are dog eat dog....Doesn't matter how many people are doing it or how long ahead they are....it's the first to hit Complete Task that get's the prize....can it be a pain sometimes to miss out YES...but I've completed a ton of missions with peope who started them ahead of me just because I hit Complete Task first....It's your mission should you decide to accept it.


Title: Re: bloody rediculus
Post by: drakna on October 29, 2008, 11:58:39 AM
yes i am using ctrl+f to see if the missions taken and there is no other way for a newbie to make money except missions hence the thinking they should be less dog eat fdohg and more first come first serve. as in i dont see hte missions in play that have been taken by others.

i've already been doing the dog eat dog thing for a few days now and i have already figured out if someone ha a 2 hour lead on a 6 hour mission you probably not goint to get it. and if someone has a 6 hour lead on a much bigger mission your chances are even smaller. but i cant find a mission of decent payout where there isnt someone with a massive lead on the mission


Title: Re: bloody rediculus
Post by: Moen Co. on October 29, 2008, 12:08:40 PM
That's how it goes, you're stuck doing the 15-30 HPD missions when you firs tstart out until you can start breaking into competitors servers. Save the big missions for when you go offline for a long period of time. Sometimes you get lucky, sometimes you don't.  Everyone starts there, so don't feel discouraged that you're not getting the big missions.


Title: Re: bloody rediculus
Post by: HJ® on October 29, 2008, 02:23:24 PM
Also remember that mission payment is linear;

If you do 100 x 5 HPD missions, you'll make the same amount in the same amount of time as you would if you did 1 x 500 HPD mission, 1 mission at a time (minus the time it takes to find new missions if doing the former option)


Title: Re: bloody rediculus
Post by: termul on October 29, 2008, 02:27:27 PM
Just hack the people that are ahead of you and kill their running process.
Then you are ahead and you will be vulnerable to attacks ;)


Title: Re: bloody rediculus
Post by: drakna on October 29, 2008, 02:54:01 PM
yeah 100 5 hpd missions i'll get right on that right after hell freezes over. as forcraking other peoples server i am a newbie still in newbie protection not like i have mega softwre to break peoples firewalls and stuff


Title: Re: bloody rediculus
Post by: Raistlin on October 29, 2008, 02:57:58 PM
Well, you're not going to get it by hanging around here whining. Go do low competition missions until you've got the hardware/software to be competitive at the other ones.


Title: Re: bloody rediculus
Post by: Araeus on October 29, 2008, 03:04:42 PM
I know it's tough, I had the same outlook.  You just have to go through and accept a ton of missions, then try and do all the ones you want at the same time.  I never did any mission with a payout below 100 HPD because I thought it was a waste of time when I was a new player.  Even if they have a couple of hours head start try the mission anyway, they might not log on at the right time to finish the mission.  I lost many missions that I started uncontested like that.


Title: Re: bloody rediculus
Post by: HJ® on October 29, 2008, 03:22:37 PM
yeah 100 5 hpd missions i'll get right on that right after hell freezes over. as forcraking other peoples server i am a newbie still in newbie protection not like i have mega softwre to break peoples firewalls and stuff

Aww, poor you. You want it all without doing the work. I just lost any respect I had for you. EVERYONE was there at one point. Those of us with MEGA software WORKED FOR IT. Stop crying and do something about it.


Title: Re: bloody rediculus
Post by: Raistlin on October 29, 2008, 03:40:14 PM
Those of us with MEGA software WORKED FOR IT.

Cept me, I mooched it off MotS way back in the beginning to get an early jump ;)

EDIT: FIX'D


Title: Re: bloody rediculus
Post by: HJ® on October 29, 2008, 03:51:18 PM
Hmm? Actually I was only around for about 3 days to a week before MotS stopped playing.

I was invited to the new wave of SGP.


Title: Re: bloody rediculus
Post by: Seb on October 29, 2008, 04:31:00 PM
I just mooche off of  Repos and hacked servers, I also do trades! :)
Mostly because research is:  :death:


Title: Re: bloody rediculus
Post by: Raistlin on October 29, 2008, 05:07:32 PM
My bad; the last line wasn't supposed to be in the quote :P

I meant that I, Raistlin, got my early software of MotS, heh.


Title: Re: bloody rediculus
Post by: HJ® on October 29, 2008, 05:17:43 PM
Sooo then, you claim to have stolen SGP Software, HMMMMM!?!

:P Just kidding.

Although I am dealing with whoever's cracked the SGP Repository, and I must say, it will be fun to hide, encrypt and then delete every one of your files, with the help of 15 other players.


Title: Re: bloody rediculus
Post by: Raistlin on October 29, 2008, 05:20:24 PM
Heh. He teamed with me before SGP even existed, I think. Back in the heady days where I actually refreshed my log page every 10 seconds or so, to try and get an IP before it was altered. . . Good times, good times.


Title: Re: bloody rediculus
Post by: Seb on October 29, 2008, 06:22:09 PM
!!!???
Delete, hide, and encrypt!?
Treason! High Treason!


Title: Re: bloody rediculus
Post by: drakna on October 29, 2008, 06:24:34 PM
yeah 100 5 hpd missions i'll get right on that right after hell freezes over. as forcraking other peoples server i am a newbie still in newbie protection not like i have mega softwre to break peoples firewalls and stuff

Aww, poor you. You want it all without doing the work. I just lost any respect I had for you. EVERYONE was there at one point. Those of us with MEGA software WORKED FOR IT. Stop crying and do something about it.


it aint that i dont like working for a reward i dont like TEDIOUS work. since iu can only do one mission at a time doing such small missions gets tedious


Title: Re: bloody rediculus
Post by: HJ® on October 29, 2008, 06:27:22 PM
So you do enough missions until you can do a CPU upgrade.


Or simply run with no defenses. The game is so broken at this point it won't matter, anyone can hack you anyways. that will allow you tons of room for missions.


Title: Re: bloody rediculus
Post by: Seb on October 29, 2008, 06:28:23 PM
I do prefer virii, install a bunch onto publics, then hide as best you can!  :)


Title: Re: bloody rediculus
Post by: Exousia on October 29, 2008, 06:31:30 PM
There is more than one way to make a buck and the "kill" button is there in the process list for a reason. Dynamically shifting running software in and out allows more tasks to be completed. Once you've altered logs, you don't need the deleter running, for instance. Once you've cracked a server, you don't need the bypass & breaker.


Title: Re: bloody rediculus
Post by: gs 059 on October 29, 2008, 07:02:41 PM
I do not see any problem with the way missions are right now, I just started a new account to see how it is being a new player, and man, you get so many public servers and even 4 secret servers to start with, that is pretty nice... anyways, I started off by cracking all of the public ones, and than started doing missions, I did not even bother log deleting and was able to do the 1k+ delete missions no problem. I do not see what you are complaining about.

also, if you notice at the top of the hour, the servers add new missions, so that is the time to pick the mish up and do it. if you are the first to see it as soon as it spawns, chances are, you are going to be pretty close to first to complete it....


Title: Re: bloody rediculus
Post by: Seb on October 29, 2008, 07:04:45 PM
1k missions?!
Wow.  :laugh:


Title: Re: bloody rediculus
Post by: Raistlin on October 29, 2008, 07:11:00 PM
Well, there's the problem right there; of course he can't get good missions of older players are snapping them up with newbie accounts!

Kidding ;)


Title: Re: bloody rediculus
Post by: Exousia on October 29, 2008, 07:15:42 PM
There are some pretty big payout missions out there right now as I think a lot of the low-end ones are being completed en masse.

When I started out, I first went down the line of public servers and cracked all of them then went down the line and accepted every mission under 20 HPD and then went down the line again completing as many deletes as possible without any programs running (that's 5 at a time). Whenever I was online doing class work or whatever, I'd start by repeating step two and get a new set of missions and just go down the line while I was working on other things and earn HPD that way. Even if someone beats you to it, you still got several deletes running and then you spend the HPD on CPU upgrades up to 1100 or whatever is just below the noob protection limit so you can do more and earn at least enough to have an IP change ready for you when you push past the protection mark and are ready to do more things like vrii installs. By then you have the hardware to run your protection and deleter and the chance to download bigger protects. Whatever the current problems with noob protection, they do allow you to basically run around unprotected through the global network for quite a while.

Perhaps if there's not enough low-level missions, we need a balancing algorithm which alters the quantity of spawned missions based on the "power level" demographics of the player base. If there already is one, then maybe it needs to be altered. Even if the vets are running one or more noob secondary accounts, that should theoretically increase the number of available low-level missions.


Title: Re: bloody rediculus
Post by: drakna on October 29, 2008, 08:20:59 PM
So you do enough missions until you can do a CPU upgrade.


Or simply run with no defenses. The game is so broken at this point it won't matter, anyone can hack you anyways. that will allow you tons of room for missions.

trhe reason i can only dso one at a time is because i can only keep one connection open at a time hence i can only do one mission or well missions on that one IP


Title: Re: bloody rediculus
Post by: gs 059 on October 29, 2008, 08:41:25 PM
that is why you get missions from a bunch of servers at once and than just find the one with the most missions against it....
btw, I remember back when I first started and you only got the 5 repositorys, and trying to take on a 500 hpd mish was suecide unless you had really good protections...


Title: Re: bloody rediculus
Post by: Seb on October 29, 2008, 08:50:14 PM
Wow, that must've been insane.


Title: Re: bloody rediculus
Post by: Exousia on October 29, 2008, 08:57:01 PM
So you do enough missions until you can do a CPU upgrade.


Or simply run with no defenses. The game is so broken at this point it won't matter, anyone can hack you anyways. that will allow you tons of room for missions.

trhe reason i can only dso one at a time is because i can only keep one connection open at a time hence i can only do one mission or well missions on that one IP

Only one connection is necessary. The reason I went down the list connecting to each public server and taking all available missions less than 20 HPD is because I wanted to have many missions on a single server. This process accomplishes this. Some are lost during this process as they are completed, but you still end up with 100+ total missions with about 5-10 on each of the public servers. You then go down the list again, connecting to each, and complete as many at once as possible. Without any other programs running, you can, with a starter server, run five deletes at once. Yes, you may lose one or two as they are completed by others, but this bulk process makes the whole thing a bit less tedious in some ways and increases your chances at earning income early on.

Later, after you've upgraded a bit, the process is the same only with protects running. Deletes only require 100 Mhz CPU, which is two upgrades costing 300 HPD (240 HPD if you have a gold account). So you can do a bunch of delete missions simultaneously.

Also, when you bounce from server to server you can do them across multiple servers at the same time without disconnecting, just bounce to one, start deletes, bounce to the next, start deletes, bounce back to the first, finish deletes, bounce to the second, finish deletes. Bouncing also increases security and is something you should get used to while you're still under protection. With a gold account, you can do this much more and make multiple bounce loops. It gives you more to do so it's not quite so tedious.


Title: Re: bloody rediculus
Post by: Moen Co. on October 29, 2008, 09:22:41 PM
Heck I remember when I was running 15-20 missions at a time worth 5-30 hpd. Man, that was probably when HP felt the best to play. That and when I finally got the ability to track others down and stop their deletes on the longer ones.


Title: Re: bloody rediculus
Post by: Seb on October 29, 2008, 09:51:06 PM
yeah, I sometimes wish I had some competition..then again I don't because most of my important files aren't backed up.


Title: Re: bloody rediculus
Post by: Moen Co. on October 30, 2008, 07:45:14 AM
It's a lot easier to get your files completely destroyed when you're newer. I had to do a complete reformat and lost all my files after one particular attack.


Title: Re: bloody rediculus
Post by: Thek3mp on October 30, 2008, 06:25:26 PM
i tend to format after every bad attack i get, but thats only been like twice so.....


Title: Re: bloody rediculus
Post by: Exousia on October 30, 2008, 06:42:34 PM
Maybe it's just because I don't feel the need to be competitive, that I just don't wander out much without an IP change nearly completed, or just that I don't mess with people, but I've been attacked once and found through IP purchase once in the two months I've been playing HP.

Site Note: It has been alleged that the PvP aspect of HP is broken or stunted. After playing around with Slave Hack over the past 24 hours, I can see a vast difference in PvP. (Been destroyed several times in one day on that game!) Not to derail the topic, and I know this has been mentioned in some suggestions already, but perhaps those who actually have attempted a much more aggressive or PvP style on this game would like to post or send me a PM or two about their experiences in PvP in HP? Or just point me to some relevant threads. I'm going to go do a search anyway, but maybe there were some derailed suggestions that addressed it that I won't find on my own.


Title: Re: bloody rediculus
Post by: Seb on October 30, 2008, 06:51:19 PM
Yes, PvP is pretty dead for a hacking game that revolves around it.  :14:


Title: Re: bloody rediculus
Post by: Exousia on October 30, 2008, 07:17:13 PM
Okay, I've officially become so frustrated with Slave Hack that I've quit. Only took 26 hours.  :laugh:


Title: Re: bloody rediculus
Post by: Thek3mp on November 01, 2008, 04:00:07 PM
slavehacks good if you like watching a big white box and constantly pressing f5 over and over.


Title: Re: bloody rediculus
Post by: Seb on November 01, 2008, 04:11:44 PM
10 servers, 10 willing.
ZT's sig. I'm beginning to go 'oh crap'.


Title: Re: bloody rediculus
Post by: Thek3mp on November 01, 2008, 04:15:41 PM
he speaks in metaphors=internet douchebag.

same as a real douchebag without the several pink polo shirts


Title: Re: bloody rediculus
Post by: Seb on November 01, 2008, 04:17:30 PM
he isn't speaking in metaphors?
He's just saying that he's about to commandeer 10 servers into a world-wide internet shutdown.
I hope he's bluffing/doesn't know it's 1 rev per person.


Title: Re: bloody rediculus
Post by: Thek3mp on November 01, 2008, 04:19:53 PM
his last sig was metaphor-ish aswell... meh whatever (checks server to see if deletes have started yet)