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This is to advise all players of HP that SGP has decided to only have a partial territory of the Secret servers in an effort to allow all players the chance to grow and compete.

SGP has 6 active players.  We have decided that we will each take 10% of the secret servers for our own territory.
With the current number of secret servers that means 10 servers to each member.

If anyone treads on our claimed servers then the punishment will be as follows.
First Offense
All processes dealing with our servers are killed
Note left in your logs as to why.

Second Offense
All processes period will be killed.  Leaving defenses will be up to the members decision.
Note left in your logs as to why.

Third or more Offenses
All processes killed.  All files deleted, encrypted, or hidden.  IP sought out after each IP Change to continue the punishment.
Note left in your logs as to why.   To end this punishment will require 2 things.  You swearing to no longer tread on our territory and a member vote.  If 5 members vote to end the punishment then you will be notified by a Log entry that it has ended.

I am sorry that such severe punishments have to be instated but this is due simply to the current "God Mode" that IP Change is.   At such time as the IP Change is changed to reflect real life, the punishments will be reviewed.

Ignorance does not equal innocence.  This has been posted here on the HP Forums as forewarning.

"To be forewarned is to be armed"  Shadowrun Quote

So..your bassically telling us if we tread on your territory even accidently, we get our ass's handed to us?
Also, concider the fact that a MAJORITY of the players who play the game likley dont read the forums.

Now, This is just me but...THis seems a little concieded for a group of 6 people to proclaim themselves gods of sercet servers, all other players should bow before us, eh? I mean, theres only six of you so unless your the top 6 in the game, posting this COULD likey piss off a massive ammount of players...and 6 pro's VS a small army of Nub to Pretty goods, my moneys on the mob....

Edit:Reread this...Also, the third punishment? So if someone walks on your lawn three times your bassically guna hunt them down and refuse to let them play by destroying their system over and over? 'Ok, this person isent listening to our self-proclaimed authority, so lets grief him...that'll show him were awesome'

Meh, what do I care...I dont even have access to the secret servers yet...the over oppinionated nub will leave now

It would be rather hard to accidently disinfect or capture one of our Virii.  Especially since they are all known.

And as to the vs a small army.   If you can hack my server you can have all the software on it.  I have already posted my IP on the forums so look for it and give it a try.

1> Read the tutorial I put out.  You can find it here (http://hacker-project.chaoticfury.com/viewforum.php?f=20) of course you will have to register first.

2> I am sorry that you think so little of yourself as to call yourself a nub.  I had hoped that as a new player you would be willing to learn.

The reason for this post is to warn people ahead of time due to the number of people who feel we pick on someone for no reason.

This also opens the playing field as right now SGP controls most of the secret servers.  Since we will be removing a considerable amount from our current territory it provides more space for others.  I am sorry that you could not understand that.  Perhaps if you had not focused on one part of the message you would realize that.

I did. I think 6 people holding 60% of the servers as their own personal domain and nobody else's slightly...well, as i said before, concieted. And I call myself a nub because in this game, Its what i am. Im new, Im learning fast, but im still learning. Soon I wont be a nub, but till that happens, Im the little fly flitting around someones head, not the nest of hornets.

And I saw what you said. Frankly I think its kind of nice your actuaully making it so newer players cans till grow in the game. but this



If someone DOES poke onto your territory, ebcause honistly, not EVERYONE is guna sit back and enjoy the show...people will test the limits to see how strong they can become. You are bassically PROMICING them that you will raze them to the ground, then follow them to their new house and burn that to, and every house they own forever unless most of your members agree to stop...and if TWO people have a mild dislike for the person and dont agree to the vote, then the house's of the person are forever burned down.

So, I realize what your saying...but I also feel the need to point this out because well...This would be textbook Griefing, no?

a nub is someone who can not learn yet thinks they know everything.   Honestly SGP could probably hold all of the secret servers if we put just a small amount of effort into it.  But instead of that we are offering to relinquish a good portion of the servers in an attempt to promote growth.

This game needs a good war anyways.  Like I said already.  My IP is on the forums for anyone to try.  I am not even running the best defenses available to SGP as a whole.  Why you ask?  Simple there is no one who can touch me right now.  I can not even crack my own defenses.  And that is a fact.

Pretty lame hearing you complain about how "It's not fair that you guys are giving up something you ALREADY HAVE to make the game fair"

Hmm basically SGP is giving us room to grow. And lol i have no objections. The guy complaining isn't understanding it, he stated that they will give a warning which is actually good since it's better than having your server hidden/encrypted deleted xP!. Also it's a warning so you can't "accidentally" do it again =p.

What do you understand for "offense"?

Deleting/capturing a virii on those servers or even making a delete mission on other file whose will not affect SGP player(s) in any way?

basically don't touch SGP viruses/files/members xP

but delete missions would be fine

Thats my understanding at least

Yes, but it is better to ask first...

........

Put it this way.

I don't fruiting care who dis-infects my stuff. (ask ebolla/scrixx/raistalin)

i treat them all the same  :4:

:confused2:

I mean the stuff not from SGP, I mean to Special software hosted at the server that the game scripts creates, marked as target for delete missions.

Lol those are fine

dude.......... i can understand how it would be a problem for your stuff to be taken, but again, as was pointed out, not everyone reads the forums...........

also, how are we supposed to know it's one of you guy's servers?????? or even one of your programs....................


we simply can't know, and damage is already done



find some system in which it can be identified as one of yours, and also maybe leave one server open for newbies to break (for virus), so they can grow, since you're always talking about being nice to newbies


and also, besides sheer strength, what claim CAN you have on a server????


and on top of that, who ARE the members, and even then we might not recognize them as their software (cept soviet, we all know when its soviet who comes a knockin)

I'm not sure, I just try not to mess with SGP Spam in a Can (pretty obvious), with soviet's files, and with anything significantly above version 1.0.

Honistly, the only person whos virus's i recgonize WOULD be soviet *The man has all the stealth skill's of a rampaging elephant....but at leas that means i know things are his :P*

Oh, that reminds me. Soviet, your virus's are resource hogs. I cant even upload things to the first truelight server and run em :P

erm..

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thats because i nuked all the true light servers to around 50% of their capacity BEFORE SOMEONE DEFUSED MY BOMBS >:(

Hahah. We're such geeks, aren't we? We're thinking of these things in real terms. Defused bombs? Actually, an actual bomb in the True Light servers would be a really cool plot point. Maybe soviet's bomb scare will be in the next plot update. . . :P

SGP = all top 6 players.
This game has huge potential, but it'll be spoiled if the top players team up and fill all servers with their malware (and even willing to destroy competitors who dare to take a mission against their software)

Rather than SGP vs. the world, I think a much more interesting battle would be between members of SGP. Say. . . everyone vs. soviet? I only suggest that one because he's about 4 times as powerful as any of the rest of them :P

*points to ebolla*

guys, i have no freaking vendetta against anyone.

if you're stupid enough to let me find you then that's your problem. (cough, direct capture, cough)

The better thing I am thnking on is to make themselfs to get dedicated servers and upload virii on them, leaving secrets for their newest members and other people...

Ok it appears that I was not as clear as intended in the OP.

You are allowed to do missions on them still. Just no disinfects.  We encourage you to do all the delete missions you want.

That's good news at least though the disinfect missions pay better..

*Goes back to deleting for 5 HPD*

   Hipocracy at its finest-Im just going to throw down some quotes from "The face of SGP",take them for what you will.

   "Ignorance does not equal innocence.  This has been posted here on the HP Forums as forewarning."
   "Now as for the new players.  They quit because of people like you, after all you and a few others have bragged about this, finding them due to their mistakes as new players and hosing them"
   "Your previous comment can be construed that way.  It sounded to me like you were basically saying "You know what?  You are an egomaniac that won't listen to anyone else."  Understand sometimes it is not what you say but what is insinuated.."
   "I am not even running the best defenses available to SGP as a whole.  Why you ask?  Simple there is no one who can touch me right now.  I can not even crack my own defenses.  And that is a fact."
   "If you can hack my server you can have all the software on it.  I have already posted my IP on the forums so look for it and give it a try."

   Broadcasting live from The Necropolis
   Master Shake

I make many missions on those servers for around 300 HPD. I do not know what you complain about.

Also I have not wasted HPD on software.

Huh...So the top 6 in the game are bassically going to make the rules themselves? Why does this look like another BOB in the making to me. *If you've played EVE...I need say no more..And i mean EVERYTHING about bob*

uh.. Bob? I've played EVE and I havn't heard of "BOB" o_O

Also top 6 can't make the rules themselves, but it is not against TOS to play the game the want to play it :D

i dont play eve, and already know BoB = band of brothers, with a monopoly on one tech tree as it were o_O (thats about all i know, except theres some kind of war going on)

You dont know about bob? Dude, did you live in a cave on the far side of Jove space or something?

And Soviet pretty much hit it on the head.
And theres ALWAYS a war going on. BoB pretty much said if your not one of us, and you blink at us or step on our lawn we will...wel..Kill you till we wana stop...huh, what did THAT sound like...sounds...familar..

BoB = Band of Brothers.  They are one of the most powerful mega corps in Eve-Online

SGP = Six Gun Productions. The most powerful mega-corp in Hacker Project.


I don't see anyone stopping them.

Oh i see.

SGP have been stopped before >.>

Who has done so before?

Quitting of members I presume

We were never stopped.  Only slowed down when Rothum, Neo, and Gor quit.  We are back up to strength at the original concept of 6 active members.

While we have slowed down once again with recent issues both in game and out of game it is not a problem.  The whip is coming out once again /evilgrin

Oh? i thought our tampering with the secret servers being rectified counted as being stopped ^_^

The only thing that did was force us to actually buy a second server to use as a dump server vs controlling an NPC server and take advantage of the unlocked BW.

I want to make one request of SGP: Title your work.

As an up and coming hacker, I am willing to cooperate with SGP so long as SGP names their Virii with names I can recognize. I have already avoided taking over several of Soviet's programs, and will continue to do so. However, I will take over any virii I choose that are owned by anonymous or lesser hackers. If SGP wants to avoid altercation with me, I request they sign their work.


Do note I am under no illusion that I can seriously hurt SGP. However, I do believe I can be a minor inconvenience, and if SGP gets minorly inconvenienced too many times, it may find that one day, one of these straws will break it's back.

I want to be as neutral as possible, and while I do profit from taking over other's virii, I would prefer to work out a deal and give up ground than engage in conflict.

Most of my Virii are Spam in a Can however I have recently started working on file-share to replace my adware.  My file-share virii use a nomenclature based on the size of server they are designed for.
So they will have the min bw - max bw for that version type.

i wish emi would let us keep previous versions of our work............ instead of us having to re research it or download it...........

like the option to

yes, defiantly

Im guna AGree with Zac on this...Title your work, preferibly with SGP somewhere in it..even if its just tacked on at the end that would save a LOT of trouble in the long runs...

I'm Piggy  :13:

so YOU'RE the one i see on so many of the servers.......

Heh, I found one server that has your v.62 sitting there public... after I cracked in and took a look around I decided to download it before someone wised up and installed it...

I also got a MyCash_Neo.Dll from somewhere before it was installed... I upgraded it a bit (which I shouldn't have done, I wish it took less than 5 bandwidth now so I could put it on inactives...)

I was spreading those around earlier and they were being removed pretty quick... now I think I know why.

That would've been a good thing to know... at least the fact that I haven't been left any warnings in my logs yet it comforting...

Or maybe I just missed them...  :confused2: *runs to go look*

:P

Just so all know the current claims have had  the first 2 octets posted here (http://hacker-project.chaoticfury.com/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=91) so that there is no more confusion.

can we please have it reposted here........ i don't want my i.p. visible to more people then i have to

Then why have you posted it here 647 times?

Noseed**n,  You don't have to worry about it bro.  Just like me you are a nobody.  You're not going to get hacked unless you piss off some real hacker and then it doesn't matter because no matter where you go they can find your IP be it here or else where.

IF you are really that concerned then get a good router like this one (http://www.dlink.com/products/category.asp?cid=82&sec=1) and set it up properly before you connect.

doesn't need to be a real hacker to do damage.......... i'm a script kiddie (i'll admit it) and i can shut down your computer from here if i had ur i.p. address

Ok      70.173.213.202 have at it

Quick question... if we... if my friend were to happen to... hypothetically speaking... to run across a server that may or may not be technically claimed by SGP based on the first two numbers... but then it's totally empty of processes and virii... what should I... I mean my friend... hypothetically wanting to upload virii to this server... do.

Edit: But seriously, what's the protocol on this... I just don't want my server wiped out because I found an "empty" server and put some virii there, encroaching on the "claim"

Well right now we are working on cleaning off all Virii from our claimed servers so that we can do as Sir Emi wants us to do by the changes he is making to the game.  Install/Disinfect cycle.  Granted there are now around 200 secret servers and we will be expanding our control once more after the initial period is done.

I can tell you that at least 2 of us are going to be claiming only 200BW+ servers.  That way the smaller servers are left for the smaller players.  But that will take some time as well.

Wow is this true? Then we should give you thanks because you are allowing other people to grow in this game.  :13:

Any chance you might post the IP's SGP claims?

already done on the SGP forums.

What of us who prefer to limit the availability of our IP to the outside world? I can't agree with the conditions, so I won't register.

If you lay claim to something, make it known to those who are concerned. Otherwise, it's hardly a claim.

Then you have a few options:
1.  Use any of the thousands of free proxies out there, especially when browsing this forum, any other forum, or for that matter any page that allows dynamic content.
2.  Stop being paranoid.
3.  Don't read this post, or any on this forum.

2 is preferable, because frankly, nobody here wants your IP, at present they could get it if they did, and it wouldn't be nearly as useful as you seem to estimate.

Edit: Removed example of the above point.

Since Ebolla seems to have picked me as a personal punching bag with nary an explanation, SGP has lost whatever high ground it might have had, at least in my book.   :21:

Since at least one of your members doesn't respect your own rules, how can you expect other players to do so?  :confused2:

EDIT: I have no illusion about my standing any chance against SGP, neither have I nor do I want to. I just feel you're trying to make people jump through hoops and submit to your will. Threats are no substitute for legitimacy, might does not make right, and if you tell me the jump, I'll just turn around and walk away.  :17:

You were disinfecting our virii on servers we claimed and installing your own.  You did this knowingly.  All I did was install your own virii on your server and hide your AV's.  If anyone else did anything more that is up to them.

However I would like to point out this (http://hacker-project.chaoticfury.com/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=87) which is made available for anyone who registers to read.

We are not trying to make anyone submit to our will but we will jealously protect our territory.  If you think this was to severe see what happens when you intrude on our territory again.

Please do not try to make yourself look like an innocent victim.  You made the first attack against us.  We retaliated.  End of Discussion.

Hey, Ebolla, quick question. Is that spyware I've seen around called "This is an SGP server" a legitimate SGP thing, or just someone trying to scare off competitors? Cause if it's the real deal, it's actually a kinda clever 2-in-1 package. It protects your servers from other people installing adware, and warns off casual intruders.

Yes it is mine.   I will have a 1.0 out in a few days time.  Problem is that it is so CPU heavy that at 1.0 it will take up 3GHz so not sure how useful it will be.

I am also going to be seeding all servers with an IP sniffer far above what can be cloaked against.

By all means correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought the IP sniffer would only give you the server they bounced in from? That doesn't seem crazy useful. That goes double if they're changing IP's after starting something.

It shows both coming in and going out.  IT is another way to gather IP's instead of sifting through the logs.

I could just use it and then CTRL-F the IP I am looking for to get the time stamp and everything making log deletion useless ;)

Once I have the Time stamp I can quickly track them down.  Only time I run into a snag is with cracking.  Plus with the Sniffer installed I can rapidly change the Passwords effectively keeping the servers in lock down mode if I so wanted.

I hear you're being tough on EoD virus man. What're you using to determine who's an EoD member or not? The whole 'free distribution' thing makes it hard to tell based on software alone.

 :atention: Alright, a few points I have to make here. First, if I was disinfecting one of your virii, it was only for a mission (and I just explained to you why in a PM). Up until now, my contacts with SGP had been cordial.

Second, I might have installed my virii on one of your claimed servers, unknowingly, (what do you need to make people register on your own forum to have access to the list? It seems you'd save both you and everyone else a lot of trouble and grief by making it more accessible), but I only install my virii on empty servers (or nearly so; no logs means no activity in my book). But what you're accusing me of, that is, disinfecting and replacing your virii with my own, I have never done, and have no plan to ever do.

So, to recapitulate, you'll never find me disinfecting and installing virii on the same server, yours or anyone else's. Disinfecting, only for missions (as little damage as possible), and I leave the BW open for the owner to reinstall until no mission reappears to clear the virii. I see it as a matter of respect. Same reason I loathe virus breakers. Call it an attack if you will, but it wasn't directed at you. I'm looking out for number one.

If you found my virii on one of 'your' servers, it's only because that server was empty when I got there. Disinfect them, tell me to back off, sure enough, I will. I can't, nor do I want to, fight against SGP.

I'm not an innocent victim, that much I'll agree with. But I'll refer you to the first post in this thread.


I'll ask you this. Did you try to leave a note? I never saw one.

Moen Co.,
Who said we are hitting EoD hard or even mildly?   Sure we come across people with EoD software on their servers but they don't even have the guts to announce themselves here.  I do know that some people with EoD software on their servers have tried to pass themselves off as SGP.  Now those, yes we don't take kindly to people claiming to be SGP when they are not, so we obliterate them.

Magna Carta,
It is clearly posted on the SGP forums that until such time as Sir Emi fixes highly abusable "features", aka exploits, that we are treating all as enemy.  Now it is possible that the note was forgotten to be put in there but still fact of the matter remains.  You are the enemy in game.  Now with regard to the disinfect and infection of one of our servers.  Sorry but you are not telling the truth.  You disinfected my file share AFTER your upload of your file share was complete and started installing yours.  That is a hostile action against us.  And since you want to try to make yourself out as the good guy.  I will do it for you right now.  Magna Carta you are now on SGP's hit list.  Anytime your server is found all files will be deleted, virii installed, and whatever else we decide at the time to do.  You will receive this not because you brought up the matter of your initial actions towards us but because you want to lie about your actions.  Honor is the only thing that can not be taken from someone.  You have just lost your honor due to your lies.  That 300 BW will make for some nice HPD creation.

If you can send me the IP where I did this, please do (the date might help, just in case), because, I have no recollection of ever doing something like this.

Actually, if you found a 300 BW server with my name on it, please hit it and put it on the SGP hit list. I'd also appreciate if you could forward me its IP, if and/or when you have it, because it's not mine, and I'd like a go at someone who's impersonating me.

Do not question my honour, integrity or principles. Ever.

EDIT: I should add, if you found a server with my name on it between about July 14th (maybe the 15th) and today, it couldn't have been me. I had changed my gateway's name, and only changed it back today.

I don't like your idea. That is clearly monopolizing the game and maybe one of the reasons why your so called "God Mode" IP switch is not yet removed.

I just checked my logs again, and it clearly shows that you killed all my processes, and attempted to delete (managed to delete some) all my files. I can give you the times for every file you managed to delete, as well as the time for every activated virus. The deletions and the activations weren't done by two different persons. Same IP, same time. Maybe you forgot, I don't know. But please refrain from accusing me of lying before you yourself are certain of what you say.

I had to do some things I'm not proud of (some old 70's style porn) just to get unbanned from these forums to respond to this, for it seems you are unaware of who SGP is, what we do, and what we have done.

I deleted about half of your files. I bounced from the same IP Ebolla did to make it appear as if we were the same person.

When you came online i messaged you asking if you'd just been hacked because you had lost a significant amount of power. You fell right into it.

The fact that the bounces came from a public server and you're pointing the finger at one person is quite enjoyable to me. You should work on your Tracing skills.

Please refrain from letting your eyes get the best of you with simple illusions that make this great game what it is today.

In other words,

Please refrain from accusing others until YOU, sir, are certain of what you say.

Good day.

Aye, I remember you sending me a message, seeming to express genuine concern: "Bad enough when the top 20 gets hacked in a new game that we're just trying to build up the community of."

I don't know who this reflects worse on, me, for actually believing you at your words, or you, for playing me. I'll let others pick.

As for working on my tracing skills, it's more a matter of you, who's ranked at 3 times my power, using a log deleter I have no way of countering. I'll admit that deleting files at the same time as Ebolla was infecting me was well played. I had considered the possibility, since there were some logs entries that could spell that possibility, but I thought it somewhat unlikely. As I said, well played.

At this point, I'd like to offer my sincere apologies to Ebolla for believing he was the one responsible. An honest mistake, but a dreadful mistake. I'm sorry.

Should I also assume that the threatening message you 'relayed' from Ebolla was also fake?

You can assume whatever you like.

sort of a change of subject but i wanted to let SGP know that I was the one that captured a sniffer and spyware on a secret server. I had 4  viri already installed on the server after you announced that you where withdrawing from servers so the rest of us could use them. When i installed mine the server was empty. Someone installed a spyware which i captured, then someone installed 3 more viri of various levels and finally someone using an SGP spyware came in and also put on a sniffer claiming the server as theres. I was simply taking back the territory I had staked out. Trace me back and delete all my files if you must. I was only defending what I had claimed earlier.

This is getting interesting...  :)  :12:

wow the group that first was so against spyware now uses it it self. iam so disapointed in you guys.
not only claiming servers that were empty and taken in by others - no you even take advantage of those who installed viriis on those servers.
i lost due to your spywares around 3k thas half of my income
i so dont trust in your words anymore - and the story i heard from one of my friends i heard today makes it even worse.
i lost trust in SGP
are there even any Secret Servers we can use? i mean your 60% claim includes more and more servers so if one finds an empty server that is not on your list yet - that server might get added 2 weeks later screwing the guy over.....
quite a easy living!

To my knowledge, SGP doesn't use spyware for the most part.  Only one member does that I'm aware of, and as far as I know, that is only on 19 servers that are claimed (out of 305 secrets total that I know about).
As far as I can tell, SGP only tends to claim servers that are either empty when they are claimed, or already are filled with SGP virii... 
Going through the IPs on the list of claimed servers seems to verify this to me, but I could be missing something.
If there was spyware on the server, and it was really from SGP, it seems sort of lucky if that is the worst that happened.
The SGP server claim list I see currently represents only 18% of the secret servers I have in my IP database, as such it is rather easy for me to find an unclaimed server...  I don't know what is causing your apparent inability to do so.  There are of course many non-claimed servers which have SGP virii on them, but you are free to disinfect these and upload your own without any retaliation.

Can I request a SGP statement on the trouble on True Light Software Repository #3?

Specifically, someone changed the password and loaded high-level FW and PP onto it, thus locking one of the servers critical to newbie growth away from said newbies. I am well aware that they can still get the software, but it still strikes me as excessive at a minimum.

I am in no way suggesting that SGP had anything to do with it. However, given you are the Elite in this game, a public condemnation of such actions would be welcome.

It is my understanding that Master Shake is the one doing it.   He is trying to make a statement about the Sniffer Daemon and it's abuse potential.

 Although I did upload a Sniffer to #3,I lost it within hours of activation. I had assumed it was disinfected,like most of the ones I put on the publics were. If it was stolen though,I cant claim anything beyond the original upload. I stopped putting them on Publics days ago,as they are simply a waste to resources to maintain. Any new Sniffer attacks on Public servers arent mine,and I will continue to refrain from uploads to them.

 EDIT-And just to clarify Im running a v.1 Sniffer,and I have nothing to do with the v.2 going around now- But I do know who is behind it.

I know it's offtopic, but i'm happy to admit that is was me that is experimenting with the .2 sniffer deamons today. Experimenting is the one and only goal i have with these sniffers. I'm not gonna reset the password nor am i gonna use to noobie ip's for my personal gain (they are a little out of my league).

So i have nothing to do with the earlier sniffers and the recent password reset. As a matter of fact it was me that disabled/deleted the v1.0+ protection software on true light repo #3 this morning (just my way of helping the new players).

I'm pretty sure that my experiments have not hurt anyone and I apologize if it did.

Edit: my 0.2 sniffers have been all been desinfected and like MasterShake said: it's not worth the effort so i'm done experimenting.

Just curious.
How can a sniffer reset a password? Is this a bug?
Because, reading his description doesn`t says that....

After a sniffer has been activated for 24 hours you can perform a remote PW Change.

It's not in the Game Guide description because it was an update.

wow, that`s interesting news
Does it work on your own server or just remote ones?

It works on all servers, therefore giving you a free PW Change every 24 hours if you keep it installed on your gateway.

It also doesn't cost AP. It's a "Loophole" at the moment, IMO. I've also been warned (and banned) to be nice on the forums, so my posts will end there.

I stole the sniffer and used it to show that it can be as deadly as the malware to a degree while I detest the use of sniffers in the effort to control heavily used hub of bouncing and DL/ULing, I only support the use of sniffers to protect oneself and scout for new IPs to explore, I did it to prove a point no matter how maliciously aggressive it may have been. Sniffers should only be useful on secrets and private servers, as a function of IP cataloging and not of password resetting, unless it is a direct attempt at recovering from a massive hacker attack. The addition of the protects are also a show at how deadly the sniffers are when in aggressive/selfish hands, that when the protects are up and the sniffer is reseting the password, you are granting a powerful blockade against any functionality and expansion necessary for Newbs/Elites to do anything to help increase their functionality and plasticity for their type of gaming style. As it may have been, I apologize for the action taken for my temporary control of that server; I am glad that those protects have been taken down, as I was going to do so when I got back today; to show that newbs and Elites should have necessary access to the servers even if it is used for file collection, or as a bounce prerogative to go to a different server. Even as such I am also done experimenting with sniffers on all domains unless it is my own for IP scouting and protection capacity.

Again I apologize for the action done on True Light #3 as it was only a point to show how deadly this item is when using the password reset function on heavily used IPs.

Umm, it wasn't particularly deadly, no one lost files, no income was lost, etc.  People were just annoyed for a little while, and that annoyance had to do with your use of a bug, rather than the actual sniffer.
What you did shouldnt've been possible according to this (http://www.hacker-project.com/forum/index.php?topic=131.0).

PS:  Revealing that it was you ruined my fun.  :(

I just wanted to make things clear, so that there would be not too much hostility towards, my action, and I never knew that it was a bug until now, that at least gave me some idea at why protects wouldn't work on secrets. I have fun ruining peoples fun when they try to track me most of the time.  :16:

You misunderstand.  I knew who you were, and I was having fun being one of the few.   :16:

nice..... I feel loved....  :5: