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Title: Isn't this round awesome
Post by: Araeus on December 04, 2008, 03:35:39 AM
All the delete missions of any value are being grabbed by a botter, who remains uncrackable because he is controlling a majority of the income of the entire game. 

Secret server versions jumped by .4 since last night, so soon we will have massive secret servers apparently?  I remember when I joined a month or two into the last round and the biggest secret around was .6, and people were freaking excited about that.

One day the best version of a file around is .6, the next day a v1 spawns on a random low protect secret server... apparently it makes perfect sense to spawn a v1 password AND firewall breaks on the same server in the same day when that server is a .3 protect.  I know you want to spread some stuff around for the weaker players but you have to at least make them work a little for it.  Reward those of us who crack the 1.15 server by giving us some at least half way decent files.  I cracked that secret earlier and there were TWO files there.  A .2 and a .1 of like malware AV and undeleter or something stupid.  Sweet.  So what I am seeing here is that there is absolutely NO benefit to going after the higher protect servers, apparently all the good files spawn on the crappy servers.  I don't think I've found a decent file on anything higher than the .6 secret servers, which existed on day 1 no less.

Right about now it seems like whatever I do is useless.  I find a .5 fw break, awesome, I was just gonna research one I guess that saves me time... an hour later I find a v1 fw break... OK... I find a .4 unhider/hider... a couple hours later I find a .7 hider/unhider...

It just seems like the growth rate on all this software is so extreme that it isn't even worth it to download anything... by the time you get it done the highest version of that file has doubled... where's the fun in that?  Where is this all going to top out?  With research above v10 giving .001 version increase, and this excessive rate of growth, I can see the spawned file versions getting up pretty high and then where will player input ever come in? 

Are we all going to be relying on hunting for new software forever or is it going to level out and let us get some research or player input here rather than just sthingy feeding all this software and stuff to us.  I for one wish that the file versions were still below v1, so I could research stuff and then feel good about my accomplishment because I'm ahead of the game.  Right now the only research I've done is an hour or so on my pw cracker so I wouldn't have to go another overload level to hit the level of cracking I wanted...

All in all I feel that this round has lost the fun of the game.  I know you want to encourage pvp, but throwing awesome files at us so we can try to beat eachother up with them just doesn't do any good.  I know I for one am looking forward to pvp, I've put all my income over the past week to cracking vashied and dropping an A bomb on his running processes... but NO.  Because of the 1.1 secret at the start, which was removed taking away other players chance to use it and leaving a select few virtually untouchable until recently because you didn't take the file away from them, he has been sitting high and mighty for so long that he has become all but untouchable.  Just last night I was almost able to crack him, lo and behold his firewall jumped from 1.4 to 3.5 today... awesome... even with the new v1 breakers that is unbreakable, because while my server hasn't gotten any bigger I need to do more overloads on a bigger file to get in now...

Sorry for the rant but I've only caught a 2 hour or so cat nap in the past 40 or so hours of hectic schoolwork and assignments while I've had to sit here and watch this round pretty much get crappier and crappier.  I'm gonna go sleep now and decide whether it's worth it for me to keep trying this obviously ineffective strategy of "looking for missions that have not yet been taken", or just start collecting the IP's of other people and have some fun before I completely burn out with this round. 

Oh by the way emi I like the the kill process missions... although I've only seen one so far... and I've seen a few anti-hacker missions floating around... although I don't see why vashied hasn't gotten anti hacker missions on him yet... you think the corps would notice a guy direct logging in and deleting all their files on every server... not that it would matter anyway since nobody can crack him but it would have been nice to see one pop up at some point...

Hopefully you've got something up your sleeve emi.


Title: Re: Isn't this round awesome
Post by: jager on December 04, 2008, 03:48:23 AM
well ... it is possible to squeeze some missions past his bot ... but not much. And I'm doing the best i can but every server i manage to finally crack - he's there already deleting the files...

true about the files - i got my points because of some nice files found on lower servers - higher ones are quite barren.

and where the h*** did he get that 3.5 prot???? it is unable to research it in such a short time!!! Even if you start with 1.5 prot that spawned today!

tell me that - how can he have 3.5 prot? I call that cheating!

And shut down his bot, for game's sake! You have the means, misfit gave them to you.

lpJ.


Title: Re: Isn't this round awesome
Post by: Araeus on December 04, 2008, 04:03:51 AM
You realize that he's taken pretty much every mission.  His server is probably huge with all this money, he could actually research it up like that.  He's getting ready to finish off the 16k mission that he has been running since forever.  I know because I am sitting right behind him on it, and one of the things I was looking forward to was breaking in and killing that delete so that I could laugh in his face and show everyone that botters don't always win.  I've pretty much kissed that dream goodbye at this point though...


Title: Re: Isn't this round awesome
Post by: siremi on December 04, 2008, 04:07:02 AM
While I am working on the anti-bot feature, I will also check all accounts, in particular those of the top 10.

If I deem the account as using bots, it will be baned. Please note, bots are not allowed as per TOS.

Thank you,

Sir Emi


Title: Re: Isn't this round awesome
Post by: jager on December 04, 2008, 04:18:36 AM
Araeus: how well do i know that. i need half an hour to find one or two missions not yet taken, and that includes all the missions i grab from any new server i manage to crack and where i know only 10 or so people is on. He got that second gateway two days into the round and it takes time and money to upgrade it to smth useful. And about researching the prot to that version - yesterday highest prot that you could buy was 1.3. After I woke up this morning - voilla - 3.5 exists. If he is doing all the missions, how can he allot the resources to research, and it would take a lot and lot of cpu resources and time to get from v1 to v3.5. I'm doing the same with undel and have managed to get it from v1 to v1.4 with all the spare resources i could put in. There is still a difference!

Sir Emi: it is nice to know you are aware of our rumbling here. Feel free to check my account, as I know i'm amongst the suspicious as I have quite some sum of points. Can't help it if I found some nice fs av 0.9 and such sftw to dl which gives a nice boost to points :D
I want some more :)

lpJ.


Title: Re: Isn't this round awesome
Post by: Thek3mp on December 04, 2008, 08:36:42 AM
get some antivirus and do some disinfect missions, i have done like 6 maybe in the past few days, none have been disturbed. i dont think the bot attempts disinfects.


Title: Re: Isn't this round awesome
Post by: jimmi33 on December 04, 2008, 08:38:31 AM
If he/she uses the bot which misfit made then yes it won't disinfect he told me he only made it do deletions because there is no AP cost to do it.


Title: Re: Isn't this round awesome
Post by: jager on December 04, 2008, 11:43:32 AM
And get some virii and install them :) The bot also doesn't do that automaticly, i pressume....


Title: Re: Isn't this round awesome
Post by: Xirad on December 04, 2008, 12:27:01 PM
The bot wouldn't install virii, but that doesn't mean that he wouldn't, lol. Seeing as he has enough resources to research the protects up that high, my money would be that his other server is starting to be a decent virii farm. which of course means he probably is going to keep a nice lead even without the bot to do his deletes for him....

Of course this is all just my guess, so who knows...


Title: Re: Isn't this round awesome
Post by: HJ® on December 04, 2008, 12:44:57 PM
This is ridiculous. I remember when we were all in awe of the 0.8 Firewall Protects that weren't out until at least a week or two after this point in the last round.

WAY too fast progression. Not cool, Emi.


Title: Re: Isn't this round awesome
Post by: DamascuS on December 04, 2008, 03:02:34 PM
Then i'm assuming that its this bot that is slowing this site down then?

I know its not firefox, because all other sites are working fine, but when on HP, i roll the cursor over a link and.....and....and.....FINALLY! the link lights up and i can click it! Not amusing i may add.

As a side note regarding bots, i have a perl script i wrote at the beginning of this week to to auto-accept missions for me, it does exactly this:

1. Log in to HP with my credentials.
2. Accesses the IP database, and extracts all the 'connect' links for the 16 or so public servers.
3. Connects to each server in turn, and basically does an 'accept' all on the bulletin board, via the actual link, so theres less stress on the server.
3. After all are done in logs out.

I have timing in the script also, so that coupled with the little waiting time for the script to grab the page, it places absolutely no more strain than usual on the server (or at least it shouldn't) because it only gets run when i want it to, which is something like, every 6 hours or so, at it only runs for the amount of time needed, which takes around a minute or so.

Is this classed as a bot at all?


Title: Re: Isn't this round awesome
Post by: Donn on December 04, 2008, 03:07:00 PM
f**k you Vashied.

Get your f**kin ass of my server.

Quote
he is untraceable

he is using my trick

you switch gateways to your crappy one,
and than bounce to yourself,
than in another browser you switch back to your main gateway

you keep the connection,
so it points to your crap gateway for the origion proxy connection,
but you run everything from your other one

emi never said anything about it when I told him

A friend of mine helping me out. Emi, got anything to say mate?


Title: Re: Isn't this round awesome
Post by: jager on December 04, 2008, 03:25:13 PM
DamascuS: hm ... yes and no :) techically yes as it is an automation. However I personally don't have anything against that script of yours as you are not using it to gain an advantage - if you really only get available missions. problem are scripts that then performs every available delete mission and when mission is completed automatically finishes that task the second (or three :)) after it is over. Other users don't have a chance then, as you don't have to be present to get missions done.

But that's just IMHO.

lpJ.

P.S.: Donn, what was that? I guess I missed smth.


Title: Re: Isn't this round awesome
Post by: DamascuS on December 04, 2008, 04:57:19 PM
Well, i see your point there jager, but imo the script im using doesn't really fit any of the classifications of a 'bot', it doesn't really do anything for me except keep my mission data up-to-date, if anything it could be classed as putting myself at a disadvantage, mainly because:

1. The time the mission was released is not displayed in the mission data.
2. There is literally hundreds of missions at a time from just the public servers alone, and wading through them all to find one that isn't already taken, takes considerably longer imo.

I am really only using this script for the time being, to counter the activities of these bots that people keep running, but needless to say, it still involves some nimble fingers and quick-clicking ;)

I really dont understand why these players want to use bots, i mean...its just pure F*****G LAZINESS!

'nuff said.


Title: Re: Isn't this round awesome
Post by: Thek3mp on December 04, 2008, 05:08:06 PM
Well, i see your point there jager, but imo the script im using doesn't really fit any of the classifications of a 'bot', it doesn't really do anything for me except keep my mission data up-to-date, if anything it could be classed as putting myself at a disadvantage, mainly because:

1. The time the mission was released is not displayed in the mission data.
2. There is literally hundreds of missions at a time from just the public servers alone, and wading through them all to find one that isn't already taken, takes considerably longer imo.

I am really only using this script for the time being, to counter the activities of these bots that people keep running, but needless to say, it still involves some nimble fingers and quick-clicking ;)

I really dont understand why these players want to use bots, i mean...its just pure F*****G LAZINESS!

'nuff said.

im assuming you arent giving this publicly?
Because if it is allowed i wouldnt mind a copy.


Title: Re: Isn't this round awesome
Post by: jager on December 04, 2008, 05:29:32 PM
DamascuS: like I said - i personally don't have a problem with that. I do know what you mean with "some nimble fingers and quick-clicking". In my case it also involves using an excel file that helps me with new servers and arranging data for faster access. But to get available missions it comes to Alt-Tab, ctrl c, ctrl v, ctrl f and a bit of praying :D and cursing.

lpJ.


Title: Re: Isn't this round awesome
Post by: DamascuS on December 04, 2008, 05:57:16 PM
...But to get available missions it comes to Alt-Tab, ctrl c, ctrl v, ctrl f and a bit of praying :D and cursing.

lpJ.

Yep, i still have to do that, i just don't have to wade through all the servers clicking 'accept all' lol.

Well, i see your point there jager, but imo the script im using doesn't really fit any of the classifications of a 'bot', it doesn't really do anything for me except keep my mission data up-to-date, if anything it could be classed as putting myself at a disadvantage, mainly because:

1. The time the mission was released is not displayed in the mission data.
2. There is literally hundreds of missions at a time from just the public servers alone, and wading through them all to find one that isn't already taken, takes considerably longer imo.

I am really only using this script for the time being, to counter the activities of these bots that people keep running, but needless to say, it still involves some nimble fingers and quick-clicking ;)

I really dont understand why these players want to use bots, i mean...its just pure F*****G LAZINESS!

'nuff said.

im assuming you arent giving this publicly?
Because if it is allowed i wouldnt mind a copy.

Edit: In the confusion, i answered another question here ;)
Real Answer should have been. I will not be making this program public, unless the need arises, at which time, only people i choose will get it, so please do not bombard me with messages asking for it, because i will not reply.

Peace Out
DamascuS


Title: Re: Isn't this round awesome
Post by: DamascuS on December 04, 2008, 06:18:15 PM
Ok, and here, im afraid to say...i make myself look like a complete idiot imo. read:

Quote from the ToS:
Quote
Forbidden actions   
    (I) It is forbidden to use any type of software that can harm or interfere with the correct functioning of The Hacker Project.   

    (II) Forbidden programs   
          It is forbidden to use any bots or other ways of artificial stay online in the game. The same goes for programs that automates
          the actions of a player outside the mechanisms provided by the in game menu.


highlighted in bold is the answer to the question.

In which case, i apologise here, publicly to anyone who may find me using this script offensive to them, and to sir emi, i know this kind of thing isn't what you want on this game, but im willing to bet that neither do you want players using bots, even though imo my script is not a direct violation of the ToS, because the script uses the 'mechanisms provided by the in game menu', in that it simply replicates the links used in the menu (kinf of like a non-interactive command-line browser).

I understand emi is busy, and is doing all he can to resolve the problems, i am NOT disputing that fact at all, heck, if he even needs any extra help/info, me and many others are only a message away!

DamascuS


Title: Re: Isn't this round awesome
Post by: Xirad on December 04, 2008, 07:09:42 PM
hmm.. so has anyone else noticed 244.131 connecting directly... multiple times, and not deleting any of his logs, AND running maybe not a lot, but a couple deletes on those servers... (so far i've seen it on mainly the public servers)

idk, i may be a little paranoid.. but it seems kinda reminiscent of a certain bot program we all know and love...

If i'm crazy just let me know and i'll shut up, lol


Title: Re: Isn't this round awesome
Post by: HJ® on December 04, 2008, 07:19:15 PM
Someone want to tell me how this is any fun?

Scanning for highest version software... Detected Basic Firewall Protect V 3.70194 as highest version file...

Scanning hardware... Detected 69150 Mhz CPU core, 2450432 kb Memory, 15 Gb hard drives, 99 kbs Bandwidth.

That's a f**king bot.


Title: Re: Isn't this round awesome
Post by: Xirad on December 04, 2008, 07:25:52 PM
wait.. is that 244.131's ? or is that vashied's? either way that's f*cking ridiculous...


Title: Re: Isn't this round awesome
Post by: HJ® on December 04, 2008, 07:26:34 PM
vashied's.


Title: Re: Isn't this round awesome
Post by: Seb on December 04, 2008, 07:34:20 PM
vashied's.
heh, I should run a scan...if only I had a scanner.


Title: Re: Isn't this round awesome
Post by: Araeus on December 04, 2008, 09:44:54 PM
Someone want to tell me how this is any fun?

Scanning for highest version software... Detected Basic Firewall Protect V 3.70194 as highest version file...

Scanning hardware... Detected 69150 Mhz CPU core, 2450432 kb Memory, 15 Gb hard drives, 99 kbs Bandwidth.

That's a f**king bot.

Well that's just effing rediculous.

 :ban:


Title: Re: Isn't this round awesome
Post by: Seb on December 04, 2008, 09:47:26 PM
yes, vashied, or whoever owns that bot, must be... 'taken' care of.  :bodyguard:
 :16:


Title: Re: Isn't this round awesome
Post by: Moen Co. on December 04, 2008, 10:47:09 PM
Yeah his hardware save the BW is only oh...10 times mine. I know we don't want false positives here, but what other evidence do you need? His amount of activity alone suggests one of three things:

-Multiple players
-Bot
-Poopsocking

And well, honestly, this game isn't 'prestigious' enough to justify multiply players or poopsocking. No offense but it isn't.

IMO, having this guy dominate the mission boards through legal or illegal methods is worse than having to deal with the AP system.


Title: Re: Isn't this round awesome
Post by: Seb on December 04, 2008, 11:20:32 PM
poopsocking?
Regardless, he just screwed up k3mp..you see, I was checking his software for big 'uns I could've upped my power with when I saw his whole server eliminated.
(EVERYTHING. was deleted, for some reason, he put a spyware on, though.  :laugh: )


Title: Re: Isn't this round awesome
Post by: termul on December 05, 2008, 04:32:57 AM
WAY too fast progression. Not cool, Emi.

This is one of those rare occassions on which I agree with you HJ. I was hoping that the game would progress a little slower in this round. May I suggest you tweak a few settings Emi ?


Title: Re: Isn't this round awesome
Post by: jager on December 05, 2008, 05:33:36 AM
I've got an idea - why is protection on secret servers even public? If Firewall and Password protection were private and therefor not right away downloadable, the game would be slowed down a little - you wouldn't know what will take to break it and you could not steal that protection for yourself before cracking - if you crack it - you afford it :)

lpJ.


Title: Re: Isn't this round awesome
Post by: Donn on December 05, 2008, 06:48:46 AM
I've got an idea - why is protection on secret servers even public? If Firewall and Password protection were private and therefor not right away downloadable, the game would be slowed down a little - you wouldn't know what will take to break it and you could not steal that protection for yourself before cracking - if you crack it - you afford it :)

lpJ.


Hacker Project: Instead of hacking servers to get high software (protection), just go to Public FTP and download. Hacking? Whats hacking?

"Hatejacket style": Oh no, dont hack other servers and steal software! Thats just.. Lame! Yeah!

Lol ^^


Title: Re: Isn't this round awesome
Post by: Thek3mp on December 05, 2008, 07:15:06 AM
yea i just logged in to see my whole soft set gone, not much really. i can get it back from somewhere.
Emi if you know this guy is botting, just remove him. you can do the whole playerbase bot search after you remove the primary problem, he is having fun by f**king up the playerbase, we cant do anything about it. only you can.


Title: Re: Isn't this round awesome
Post by: jager on December 05, 2008, 07:25:51 AM
Hacker Project: Instead of hacking servers to get high software (protection), just go to Public FTP and download. Hacking? Whats hacking?

"Hatejacket style": Oh no, dont hack other servers and steal software! Thats just.. Lame! Yeah!

Lol ^^


Yeah, and any server on the internet is just offering you their software that they are using for protection. Come, download it, see what we use and what flaws it has then come back, why not? Nobody is offering the protection they use on their public FTP IRL! That would be plain stupid.

lpJ.


Title: Re: Isn't this round awesome
Post by: sjums07 on December 05, 2008, 11:11:46 AM
Well, the botting thing even though it's against the rules, i think it's okay if it's a one time executed script to for example acc all missions, or vote or so :D


Title: Re: Isn't this round awesome
Post by: Moen Co. on December 05, 2008, 11:22:57 AM
I still think that the voting system needs to be fixed. As it is now you can receive voting bonuses without actually placing your vote, which doesn't help THP when it comes to moving up in the ranks. I'm not aware of how many people here actually vote on a daily basis, but THP is doing worse than it should be in the listings IMO.


Title: Re: Isn't this round awesome
Post by: Thek3mp on December 05, 2008, 12:19:07 PM
Well, the botting thing even though it's against the rules, i think it's okay if it's a one time executed script to for example acc all missions, or vote or so :D

im also pretty sure it starts the delete missions, and finishes it


Title: Re: Isn't this round awesome
Post by: Araeus on December 05, 2008, 02:57:47 PM
It does, and it almost constantly runs and checks for new missions and starts deletes... on all the servers.


Title: Re: Isn't this round awesome
Post by: Araeus on December 05, 2008, 03:31:45 PM
So it appears that a lot of tasks from vashied have been cancelled somehow.

If someone cracked him, please message me so I can find some way to show my undying gratitude.

If you did something about it Sir Emi, awesome.

Either way, celebrations are in order.

Edit: His protects are down, he got cracked.   Victory cigar, and time to get in there and delete/hide all his files.   :12:


Title: Re: Isn't this round awesome
Post by: Ginjitsu on December 05, 2008, 03:36:43 PM
I don't think this is fully the case...I know for certain i've cracked a couple secret servers that i was the first on one and it was loaded with nice delete missions which i am fully taking advantage of...and I cracked this server this morning so there must be some limitations to what this bot can and can't do...and I don't think it completes missions cause i've seen a ton of task completes for a certain suspected bot user and they just sit there.......I know i've managed to complete a few and steal them so I don't think it completes tasks when they are done but it might set them up to be completed when the user logs back in.


Title: Re: Isn't this round awesome
Post by: HJ® on December 05, 2008, 03:45:32 PM
yea i just logged in to see my whole soft set gone, not much really. i can get it back from somewhere.
Emi if you know this guy is botting, just remove him. you can do the whole playerbase bot search after you remove the primary problem, he is having fun by f**king up the playerbase, we cant do anything about it. only you can.

Yeah, except that was me.

Also to Donn, I won't take away for one second that stealing software is part of the game.

What I find funny is that you sit here and think you're good because of your rank in the last round. It was funny watching the power go to your head :P


Title: Re: Isn't this round awesome
Post by: Donn on December 05, 2008, 03:50:29 PM
yea i just logged in to see my whole soft set gone, not much really. i can get it back from somewhere.
Emi if you know this guy is botting, just remove him. you can do the whole playerbase bot search after you remove the primary problem, he is having fun by f**king up the playerbase, we cant do anything about it. only you can.

Yeah, except that was me.

Also to Donn, I won't take away for one second that stealing software is part of the game.

What I find funny is that you sit here and think you're good because of your rank in the last round. It was funny watching the power go to your head :P

Always the same BS HJ.


Title: Re: Isn't this round awesome
Post by: Araeus on December 05, 2008, 03:51:51 PM
I don't think this is fully the case...I know for certain i've cracked a couple secret servers that i was the first on one and it was loaded with nice delete missions which i am fully taking advantage of...and I cracked this server this morning so there must be some limitations to what this bot can and can't do...and I don't think it completes missions cause i've seen a ton of task completes for a certain suspected bot user and they just sit there.......I know i've managed to complete a few and steal them so I don't think it completes tasks when they are done but it might set them up to be completed when the user logs back in.

No, the bot completes as long as it is running.  However, it would appear he has to go offline occasionally but for quite some time there he was online 24 hours a day...


Title: Re: Isn't this round awesome
Post by: HJ® on December 05, 2008, 03:52:50 PM
yea i just logged in to see my whole soft set gone, not much really. i can get it back from somewhere.
Emi if you know this guy is botting, just remove him. you can do the whole playerbase bot search after you remove the primary problem, he is having fun by f**king up the playerbase, we cant do anything about it. only you can.

Yeah, except that was me.

Also to Donn, I won't take away for one second that stealing software is part of the game.

What I find funny is that you sit here and think you're good because of your rank in the last round. It was funny watching the power go to your head :P

Always the same BS HJ.


Really? Then drop it, because you're the one who instigated me.


Title: Re: Isn't this round awesome
Post by: Araeus on December 05, 2008, 04:04:14 PM
To whoever is downloading those crappy files from vashied:

I HATE YOU AND HOPE YOU DIE.  NOW SHOVE OFF SO I CAN STEAL HIS FIREWALL.

That is all.   :ph34r:


Title: Re: Isn't this round awesome
Post by: HJ® on December 05, 2008, 04:30:49 PM
I'm curious as to how vashied got hacked. I'm also curious as to why Emi is saying and doing nothing again.


Title: Re: Isn't this round awesome
Post by: Thek3mp on December 05, 2008, 04:48:43 PM
To whoever is downloading those crappy files from vashied:

I HATE YOU AND HOPE YOU DIE.  NOW SHOVE OFF SO I CAN STEAL HIS FIREWALL.

That is all.   :ph34r:
if you want his full bandwidth to yourself, crack him and stop his processes.
pretty obvious, not to mention the fact i enjoy doing it to people who delete high lvl softs on secrets


Title: Re: Isn't this round awesome
Post by: jager on December 05, 2008, 04:59:30 PM
HJ: actually Sir Emi did smth. He rendered Vashied bot useless on completing the missions. At least for some time, don't know if vashied managed to fix the code. That's why Vashied had to do all the completitions by hand and if smbd cracked him - nice work!
I will say this: nice work Sir Emi for this little patch :)

lpJ.


Title: Re: Isn't this round awesome
Post by: Donn on December 05, 2008, 05:07:49 PM
To whoever is downloading those crappy files from vashied:

I HATE YOU AND HOPE YOU DIE.  NOW SHOVE OFF SO I CAN STEAL HIS FIREWALL.

That is all.   :ph34r:

Got the Firewall Protect  :13:

Thanks Vashied.


Title: Re: Isn't this round awesome
Post by: Thek3mp on December 05, 2008, 05:11:24 PM
HJ: actually Sir Emi did smth. He rendered Vashied bot useless on completing the missions. At least for some time, don't know if vashied managed to fix the code. That's why Vashied had to do all the completitions by hand and if smbd cracked him - nice work!
I will say this: nice work Sir Emi for this little patch :)

lpJ.

can Emi confirm this?
i wanna make sure before i start kissing his feet,


Title: Re: Isn't this round awesome
Post by: Seb on December 05, 2008, 05:16:48 PM
I want his bot dead, not crippled, still.
I applaud you, Emi.
:thumbsup:


Title: Re: Isn't this round awesome
Post by: Araeus on December 05, 2008, 05:28:53 PM
To whoever is downloading those crappy files from vashied:

I HATE YOU AND HOPE YOU DIE.  NOW SHOVE OFF SO I CAN STEAL HIS FIREWALL.

That is all.   :ph34r:
if you want his full bandwidth to yourself, crack him and stop his processes.
pretty obvious, not to mention the fact i enjoy doing it to people who delete high lvl softs on secrets

They started a download on his crappy stuff and then IP changed.

At least have the decency to steal the highest version software IN THE ENTIRE GAME


Title: Re: Isn't this round awesome
Post by: HJ® on December 05, 2008, 05:31:48 PM
Sure, but how good does it feel to have software that was researched illegitimately?

Here we go again :P


Title: Re: Isn\'t this round awesome
Post by: benjamin on December 05, 2008, 05:34:50 PM
what do you mean hatejacket?


Title: Re: Isn't this round awesome
Post by: Seb on December 05, 2008, 05:35:37 PM
Can someone bust his server again? He's going to delete a v.8 undeleter in 2hrs!
 :2:


Title: Re: Isn\'t this round awesome
Post by: HJ® on December 05, 2008, 05:54:00 PM
what do you mean hatejacket?

- Bot gains HPD illegitimately to pay for Firewall Research and hardware to research
- Bot is rendered useless, software remains on the server the bot was tied to
- Server gets hacked, everyone gets software that was researched illegitimately, and thus the game has doubled it's progression time, and anyone who cracks the server has software that is only there because someone cheated.
- Those who do not use the forums (70% of the registered accounts on Hacker Project) are unaware of this bot and the same 30% who dominated the last round continue to do the same this round.
- The round becomes stagnant and boring.


Title: Re: Isn\'t this round awesome
Post by: benjamin on December 05, 2008, 05:55:50 PM
well it isn\'t fair, but it isn\'t fair for emi to delete it, either. if anybody who has ever dl/d stuff from a cheater is in trouble, thats bogus.


Title: Re: Isn't this round awesome
Post by: Seb on December 05, 2008, 05:59:12 PM
guys, .8 undeleter is at risk here!  :13:


Title: Re: Isn't this round awesome
Post by: Moen Co. on December 05, 2008, 06:00:33 PM
Is that really the players fault though? Technically because the bot was taking all the high-profit missions, it was stopping the spread of resources at the normal rate. Having the software spread does progress the game along a little faster, but not as much as people would think, since the HPD it gained was gotten at the expense of the other players who would have had a legitimate shot at the missions the bot was taking.

If Emi was going to delete something, he should have done it then. It's too late to do it now unless he plans on manually deleting each copy of software that was illegitimately researched. Heck, he should have done that with the v1.1 protects, but he didn't do that either, so I doubt he will here.


Title: Re: Isn't this round awesome
Post by: HJ® on December 05, 2008, 06:00:52 PM
Sure it would be fair. How is it not fair? We all have to be here to get our work done, vashied starts up his bot and heads off to public school.

Those of us who have lives can not rank while we are not online, but he is ranking AND researching software with the use of a BOT. Not only is he breaking the rules, he doesn't even have to be there to do it.

Now others are coming in and getting the cheated software without doing any work. The rest of us who don't hack the server (By morals or not knowing the IP - I do, and if you want proof check the bounce logs in thek3mp's server) are left to believe that we have the same chance to be in the top 10 as everyone else, but we don't, because those who don't care about stealing software are doing so, and in turn call themselves the "Elite" of the game, although in reality, they are exploiting the bot itself.

The software is already leaked, there is a fire sale going on on the bot's server. I bet you didn't know that though, because you just signed up on the forums. See what I mean?


Title: Re: Isn't this round awesome
Post by: HJ® on December 05, 2008, 06:02:21 PM
Is that really the players fault though? Technically because the bot was taking all the high-profit missions, it was stopping the spread of resources at the normal rate. Having the software spread does progress the game along a little faster, but not as much as people would think, since the HPD it gained was gotten at the expense of the other players who would have had a legitimate shot at the missions the bot was taking.

If Emi was going to delete something, he should have done it then. It's too late to do it now unless he plans on manually deleting each copy of software that was illegitimately researched. Heck, he should have done that with the v1.1 protects, but he didn't do that either, so I doubt he will here.

Ah so, when I spent the few hours in the crucial times in the beginning of the game downloading the 1.1 protects AT THE SIZE of 1.1 protects, and I get 0.25 protects, that's okay?


Title: Re: Isn't this round awesome
Post by: Seb on December 05, 2008, 06:04:25 PM
Remember when Misfit said he'd replicate his bot and give it to 'some random person'?
I think we've found this bot.


Title: Re: Isn't this round awesome
Post by: HJ® on December 05, 2008, 06:05:37 PM
Remember when Misfit said he'd replicate his bot and give it to 'some random person'?
I think we've found this bot.

I could have used the bot. The offer was right there, and it was my choice whether or not to use it. I wonder what Emi would have done if it was me sitting at the top thanks to a bot?


Title: Re: Isn't this round awesome
Post by: Moen Co. on December 05, 2008, 06:06:17 PM
Well that's not okay because that didn't happen to everybody. If everyone who downloaded the 1.1s got .25s instead, then that's fair since no one got an unintended advantage. Emi never intended to have the servers progress that fast, so he tried to fix it. He did fix it, but not in a way that treated everyone who downloaded a copy fairly. I agree you definitely got the short end of the stick on that one.


Title: Re: Isn't this round awesome
Post by: Seb on December 05, 2008, 06:15:30 PM
Remember when Misfit said he'd replicate his bot and give it to 'some random person'?
I think we've found this bot.

I could have used the bot. The offer was right there, and it was my choice whether or not to use it. I wonder what Emi would have done if it was me sitting at the top thanks to a bot?
you'd have been booted so fast..  :laugh:


Title: Re: Isn't this round awesome
Post by: Donn on December 05, 2008, 06:25:13 PM
Sure it would be fair. How is it not fair? We all have to be here to get our work done, vashied starts up his bot and heads off to public school.

Those of us who have lives can not rank while we are not online, but he is ranking AND researching software with the use of a BOT. Not only is he breaking the rules, he doesn't even have to be there to do it.

Now others are coming in and getting the cheated software without doing any work. The rest of us who don't hack the server (By morals or not knowing the IP - I do, and if you want proof check the bounce logs in thek3mp's server) are left to believe that we have the same chance to be in the top 10 as everyone else, but we don't, because those who don't care about stealing software are doing so, and in turn call themselves the "Elite" of the game, although in reality, they are exploiting the bot itself.

The software is already leaked, there is a fire sale going on on the bot's server. I bet you didn't know that though, because you just signed up on the forums. See what I mean?

I am not calling myself Elite. Do not f**kin put words in my mouth or make it seem Im having the same attitude as you had in round 1.

You were the one thinking you were elite and the rest was worth nothing. You were unfriendly and made threats.



Title: Re: Isn\'t this round awesome
Post by: benjamin on December 05, 2008, 06:26:49 PM
lmao looks like im not the only one hater hates.


Title: Re: Isn't this round awesome
Post by: Seb on December 05, 2008, 06:44:14 PM
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ev'ry little thing, is gonna be all'right.
and HJ hates a few people, I think.


Title: Re: Isn't this round awesome
Post by: HJ® on December 05, 2008, 07:04:36 PM
Donn please tell me where i mentioned you in my post. Jeez, the elite-ness is consuming you already, you already think that everyone is talking about you in every post! Poor Donn.


Title: Re: Isn't this round awesome
Post by: Seb on December 05, 2008, 07:13:54 PM
Donn please tell me where i mentioned you in my post. Jeez, the elite-ness is consuming you already, you already think that everyone is talking about you in every post! Poor Donn.
oh my god, it's the 1337 virus, it'll consume everyone in the top 10!  :)


Title: Re: Isn't this round awesome
Post by: Thek3mp on December 05, 2008, 07:40:14 PM
jacket, your post mentioned me, and ive never said this before but i didnt understand what you meant.
maybe it was worded differently to what i usually read but i didnt understand what my bounce logs had to do with downloading software legitimately?



Title: Re: Isn't this round awesome
Post by: HJ® on December 05, 2008, 07:44:34 PM
I was more than anything defending myself from the likes of gs 059 and Donn, considering they like to post after every post of my own.

I am not downloading from vashied's server because I find it immoral and cheating. But I do have the IP. I modified your logs to make it appear as such while I was deleting your files.


Title: Re: Isn't this round awesome
Post by: Seb on December 05, 2008, 07:47:42 PM
nice trick HJ, Nice trick.


Title: Re: Isn't this round awesome
Post by: Thek3mp on December 05, 2008, 09:26:34 PM
I was more than anything defending myself from the likes of gs 059 and Donn, considering they like to post after every post of my own.

I am not downloading from vashied's server because I find it immoral and cheating. But I do have the IP. I modified your logs to make it appear as such while I was deleting your files.
ooh interesting


Title: Re: Isn't this round awesome
Post by: Seb on December 06, 2008, 12:01:09 AM
AUGH! Vashied has deleted a .8 undeleter, I found a .9, and he has 2 hours left to get THAT one to!


Title: Re: Isn't this round awesome
Post by: HJ® on December 06, 2008, 02:34:44 AM
Seb, thanks to the new round, we already have v1.5+ UnDeleters. It took a month to get as far as we've gone in less than a week.

This round is NO fun. Even worse; SGP is gone.


Title: Re: Isn't this round awesome
Post by: Araeus on December 06, 2008, 05:06:10 AM
AUGH! Vashied has deleted a .8 undeleter, I found a .9, and he has 2 hours left to get THAT one to!

I've had a 1.34 deleter since day 1, as well as a 1.2 undeleter that needs to be updated soon with this round's progression...

Also, I still want to know who cracked vashied.  By a stupid error I lost my chance to keep admin on his server.  Right as he changed pwd I dropped his firewall since that is the strong thing, his pwd wasn't too bad (1.6 and I can take that at 2x with this new round pwd breaker!) but I forgot to kill stuff so I could overload and start the crack... so in the time it took me to back out and kill processes he managed to notice and restart his firewalls... so close... so close...


Title: Re: Isn't this round awesome
Post by: HJ® on December 06, 2008, 05:10:03 AM
Either way he should be banned anyways.

Emi, care to address this MAJOR problem in your game, or take the high road and ignore it/play it down like usual?


Title: Re: Isn't this round awesome
Post by: virus man on December 06, 2008, 06:29:29 AM
Sure it would be fair. How is it not fair? We all have to be here to get our work done, vashied starts up his bot and heads off to public school.

Those of us who have lives can not rank while we are not online, but he is ranking AND researching software with the use of a BOT. Not only is he breaking the rules, he doesn't even have to be there to do it.

Now others are coming in and getting the cheated software without doing any work. The rest of us who don't hack the server (By morals or not knowing the IP - I do, and if you want proof check the bounce logs in thek3mp's server) are left to believe that we have the same chance to be in the top 10 as everyone else, but we don't, because those who don't care about stealing software are doing so, and in turn call themselves the "Elite" of the game, although in reality, they are exploiting the bot itself.

The software is already leaked, there is a fire sale going on on the bot's server. I bet you didn't know that though, because you just signed up on the forums. See what I mean?

I am not calling myself Elite. Do not f**kin put words in my mouth or make it seem Im having the same attitude as you had in round 1.

You were the one thinking you were elite and the rest was worth nothing. You were unfriendly and made threats.



Now you understand one of the reasons I got tired of leading SGP.

BTW even anyone wants me on their team I will consider it however understand I am playing a very relaxed game this time around.


Title: Re: Isn't this round awesome
Post by: Seb on December 06, 2008, 10:33:24 AM
well, I was checking the log (un)deleters, when:
undeleters: 2.1874
deleters:  2.2774
wow, game's going fast!
(I check those because they have the loswest mb per v, so it's easier to dl.)


Title: Re: Isn't this round awesome
Post by: Xirad on December 06, 2008, 12:01:31 PM
yea.. that's one thing i realized rather quickly is... once the PW's and FW's get high enough on the secrets... it's practically useless tor research them, seeing as they grow so quickly. They already grow quicker than most people can research.. and it will only get more noticable once they breach the v10, lol. if they get that far that is...


Title: Re: Isn't this round awesome
Post by: Seb on December 06, 2008, 12:20:22 PM
yea.. that's one thing i realized rather quickly is... once the PW's and FW's get high enough on the secrets... it's practically useless tor research them, seeing as they grow so quickly. They already grow quicker than most people can research.. and it will only get more noticable once they breach the v10, lol. if they get that far that is...
I'm not leaving Newbie prot until I IP change again, so I'm slow to download, I miss all the good files.  :10:


Title: Re: Isn't this round awesome
Post by: HJ® on December 06, 2008, 02:26:27 PM
yea.. that's one thing i realized rather quickly is... once the PW's and FW's get high enough on the secrets... it's practically useless tor research them, seeing as they grow so quickly. They already grow quicker than most people can research.. and it will only get more noticable once they breach the v10, lol. if they get that far that is...

Sure they can get that far - IN FACT - Emi's made it that way! After the server's total reaches 200, they'll all simply upgrade. Isn't this the game we all wanted to play? It's easy as hell and we don't have to do anything!

Emi sped up the slow parts of the game and slowed down the fast parts. He's single handedly ruining this game.

Like I said to Araeus, f**k the research update, nobody needs to research anymore.


Title: Re: Isn't this round awesome
Post by: Araeus on December 06, 2008, 05:33:01 PM
 Completing identify virus process...
 Cracking virus signature... done

 Generating virus identity report:
 Vir file: #73215 Basic Adware Spam Daemon V 0.1
 Vir type: Adware Spam Daemon
 Vir owner: vashied
 Checking for remnants of owner IP...
 nothing found.

 identify vir file #73215 | Basic Adware Spam Daemon V 0.1 process complete!

 Completing identify virus process...
 Cracking virus signature... done

 Generating virus identity report:
 Vir file: #83977 (o.O) screwmissions V 0.516079
 Vir type: Adware Spam Daemon
 Vir owner: vashied
 Checking for remnants of owner IP...
 found IP address: xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx

 identify vir file #83977 | (o.O) screwmissions V 0.516079 process complete!

 Completing identify virus process...
 Cracking virus signature... done

 Generating virus identity report:
 Vir file: #73424 (o.O) Noob Adware 5kbs V 0.16545
 Vir type: Adware Spam Daemon
 Vir owner: vashied
 Checking for remnants of owner IP...
 nothing found.

 identify vir file #73424 | (o.O) Noob Adware 5kbs V 0.16545 process complete!

Thanks for all that work getting the all powerful botter out of the game Emi.

Now I have to re research that v.5 adware, and I didn't even get a chance to upload it before the prick found me.

Also I agree with HJ, research is dead.  The only reason we need to research anything right now is because now I'm going to make a giant firewall bypass so I can get in there and mess this guy's nuts up again.


Title: Re: Isn't this round awesome
Post by: HJ® on December 06, 2008, 05:59:08 PM
Make sure you let me know when, I'll give him the HJ Treatment :P

Hide AND THEN delete all files. Encrypt all virii.

I'll bring the Sativa Indica members along with me, that's a minimum of 75 processes.


Title: Re: Isn't this round awesome
Post by: Araeus on December 06, 2008, 08:26:13 PM
Awesome.

Now I'm being griefed.

The best part is, with the inclusion of the VI he can pretty much just VI all my adwares out on the secrets (and he knows where those are, he was killing my installs and installing them himself at the end) and have a high chance of getting my new IP for free (I have about 60 virii out on the secret server.

Also, of note, is that I am currently running his 4.0 firewall, which is pretty much cake with the friggin new v2 firewall bypasses out on the secret servers.  His new firewall is almost v5 which is pretty awesome considering all the new research updates to slow it down and the fact he started last night...


Title: Re: Isn't this round awesome
Post by: Araeus on December 07, 2008, 09:49:22 AM
I'll bring the Sativa Indica members along with me, that's a minimum of 75 processes.

I've been talking with jager about getting him cracked again.  I think we can do it and it shouldn't be too horribly difficult...

Also, yeah... even after I was already cracked and password changed after I got the v4 firewall from Donn (who cracked me and saw me getting owned by vashied) vashied still cracked me pretty easy.  I don't think any of the v2 bypasses were even out at that point, I think he probably just did a big ass overload on whatever he had consider his server stats are friggin ridiculous.  Emi, this is completely unfair and needs to be addressed ASAP.  Even if we do crack him and mess him up good, he will just keep researching his firewall and eventually we won't be able to touch him... and it's not like we can really hurt his gateway too much at this point...


Title: Re: Isn't this round awesome
Post by: Seb on December 07, 2008, 11:18:41 AM
 :laugh:


Title: Re: Isn't this round awesome
Post by: kriszke on December 07, 2008, 01:21:09 PM
Who's with me in bombing him with revelation?


Title: Re: Isn't this round awesome
Post by: jimmi33 on December 07, 2008, 01:23:17 PM
well Araeus you don't have to be so sure about that ^^ i see that lots of us already are getting farms so we can still beat him with a bit of luck ^^


Title: Re: Isn't this round awesome
Post by: Araeus on December 07, 2008, 05:28:06 PM
well Araeus you don't have to be so sure about that ^^ i see that lots of us already are getting farms so we can still beat him with a bit of luck ^^

Sure you can, and he's had a second server for far longer than all of you, with the income to add way more fileshares than all of us can.  Soon it won't even matter that emi shuts down the bot, he will still have a much better income than everyone else because of this head start.


Title: Re: Isn't this round awesome
Post by: DamascuS on December 07, 2008, 05:35:16 PM
When the banhammer drops, i hope that second server gets crushed! bye bye income! :laugh:

Idea: How about an entire HP playerbase effort to get his farm IP, if he has one, and rip the hell out of it? first to get it posts it globally. Probably the one and only time i would condone the use of a virii breaker (though that may be pushing it a little).


Title: Re: Isn't this round awesome
Post by: HJ® on December 07, 2008, 05:35:38 PM
well Araeus you don't have to be so sure about that ^^ i see that lots of us already are getting farms so we can still beat him with a bit of luck ^^

Sure you can, and he's had a second server for far longer than all of you, with the income to add way more fileshares than all of us can.  Soon it won't even matter that emi shuts down the bot, he will still have a much better income than everyone else because of this head start.

Which is why he should have been banned long ago, and if he is not banned for the use of bots, I will start using them myself.


Title: Re: Isn't this round awesome
Post by: Seb on December 07, 2008, 07:09:27 PM
Do we have any evidence he's botting?
I've actually tried to put two and two together, but he doesn't seem to have a botters perfection.


Title: Re: Isn't this round awesome
Post by: HJ® on December 07, 2008, 07:12:38 PM
Well let me give you a lesson

2 and 2 together equals 4, not 7.


Title: Re: Isn't this round awesome
Post by: Seb on December 07, 2008, 07:14:14 PM
Well let me give you a lesson

2 and 2 together equals 4, not 7.
awh, I already knew that.  :2:


Title: Re: Isn't this round awesome
Post by: HJ® on December 07, 2008, 07:23:39 PM
Then get back to the drawing board and do some more calculations.


Title: Re: Isn't this round awesome
Post by: Xirad on December 07, 2008, 08:30:30 PM
So... anyone else rushing for those nice tasty v 6.37xx FW protects?  :laugh:

EDIT: Is he just being very generous.... or is he worried that they will be deleted and so wants to make sure he has a buy-backup by passing it out to the multitudes? I would like to lean towards generous, lol. just because I don't think anyone could crack him at the moment to delete it... but d**n... there goes the power rankings for a bit

EDIT of an EDIT: Whoa! and how long has jager been in 1st? did this just happen or have i been a little blind and oblivious?


Title: Re: Isn't this round awesome
Post by: HJ® on December 07, 2008, 09:12:08 PM
Long story short:

Vashied's getting bored. Or to quote him, "Just having a bit of fun before I cut down the time I play."

He uploaded his FWP to Jager's server along with many public servers:

97.113.141.182
1.135.129.44
190.216.239.111
44.13.62.61
65.204.152.223

Regardless of his intentions, he has just allowed the work of his bot to spread throughout HP like a nasty virus.

In other words, Emi didn't act fast enough. This round is as good as ruined.


Title: Re: Isn't this round awesome
Post by: Xirad on December 07, 2008, 09:21:00 PM
You know what that means you have to do right? lol, you're gonna have to do what took everyone about 2 months to pull off last time.  :laugh:

At least.. if you think it is so horribly ruined that is... and you could always make it your rounds work to track down the file and delete them all along with the files that were downloaded by people. that should.. at least give you another MO for this round


Title: Re: Isn't this round awesome
Post by: HJ® on December 07, 2008, 09:24:12 PM
It wont change the fact that the round is progressing at a rate that is probably 500x faster than it should be.

I have a v6 firewall. This far into the first round, IIRC there wasn't even v1 software available.

It's a f**king joke and TITA EMILIAN doesn't give two nutss.


Title: Re: Isn't this round awesome
Post by: Xirad on December 07, 2008, 09:45:56 PM
Ah... how quickly we return to hate.  :16:

He was doing a good job there for awhile, lets at least give him that. But then somewhere along the lines RL stepped in.. or something happened and he couldn't do quite as much maybe. It could be he's still trying to work on the coding to stop the bots, idk. i'm not a programmer and have no idea how long it would take to stop one, without using the often hated methods like CAPTCHA.

But yea.. this round is progressing at a ridiculous rate. So that's one thing he will hopefully learn from and change in either a later update... somehow... or after the round is reset... again....

Also at the risk of showing my ignorance... whats IIRC?  :21:


Title: Re: Isn't this round awesome
Post by: Moen Co. on December 07, 2008, 10:38:24 PM
IIRC - If I remember correctly.

Emi has a habit of overcompensating for anything he sees as unbalanced.

Players camping the servers of other players? AP update.

Players buying other player's IPs at a high rate? Nerf to the IP store.

Funny enough, he hasn't done anything about IP Change God Mode, which has been around just as long as these problems.


Title: Re: Isn't this round awesome
Post by: HJ® on December 07, 2008, 10:41:29 PM
Let's add to that list!

Players actually using PvP - limit tasks on remote gateway

People start making money - limit the number of virii you can collect

People enjoy the game - countless f**kING RETARDED updates that ruin the game.

People want to talk to Emi about it - he ignores us.


There's some overcompensation.





Title: Re: Isn't this round awesome
Post by: jager on December 08, 2008, 02:56:14 AM
EDIT of an EDIT: Whoa! and how long has jager been in 1st? did this just happen or have i been a little blind and oblivious?

The moment Vashied generously cracked me, uploaded his firewall protect and started it. Was thinking of deleting that file but right now plenty of other people is running it as it was also uploaded to public servers. Until Vashied gave me his firewall i was only cracked by him, now i believe it is almost impossible (I have good hardware and software and was unable to overload bypass to reach that version).

I don't know, afaik he don't have that much more for playing and that is the reason he gave us this 'gift'. We can either accept it or not, we can not say he didn't try to be good :)

lpJ.


Title: Re: Isn't this round awesome
Post by: Araeus on December 08, 2008, 03:21:24 AM
He's still a douche, you know what this means right?  Now, vashied is the only one able to crack anyone at all.  We all sit comfortably behind our stupid firewalls and vashied gets to pretty much walk into whatever server he wants still.


Title: Re: Isn't this round awesome
Post by: Seb on December 08, 2008, 05:39:04 PM
He's still a douche, you know what this means right?  Now, vashied is the only one able to crack anyone at all.  We all sit comfortably behind our stupid firewalls and vashied gets to pretty much walk into whatever server he wants still.
aw, my server acts as a bed, table, and cupboard.
He'll put bootprints onto my food, screw up my bed, and break my good china.


Title: Re: Isn't this round awesome
Post by: virus man on December 09, 2008, 04:47:48 AM
I remember last round it took about 3-4 months for the secret servers to hit 2.0 protects.  Heck playing at a relaxed pace I can't even do 1/10 of the missions because the secret servers are advancing so quickly.

I am glad I didn't keep SGP around for this round.  It would take up WAY to much time dealing with the intel and organizing research projects + the distribution of software to other members.

HP is now dead.  Revelations should already be popping up since they should have started out when the servers hit 1.0 protects.  Same with Faith.

Now the only thing to do is to rush to D-Day every round to drain Titam of money.


Title: Re: Isn't this round awesome
Post by: jager on December 09, 2008, 05:33:28 AM
I remember how happy I was to find v1.0 protections after few months through the game in first round. Now we are walking around with v6 and more firewall after two weeks ...

Not to mention all other sft versions.
To get to the top all you have to do is buy more disk space and download all the great software on the public servers ... how many researches I wasted this round to find a much better version to download after long hours of research.

lpJ.


Title: Re: Isn't this round awesome
Post by: Araeus on December 09, 2008, 03:41:54 PM
Indeed.  All I know is my server is going to be at least big enough to run a revelation, and I hope to nuke the nuts out of this round so we can maybe get a better start next round....

Like ebolla said, rev's should've started spawning already since the secret servers are above v1.0

Also, I thank whoever is disinfecting my adwares, they were a liability when it only takes about a minute to VI them and try to get my IP  :19:


Title: Re: Isn't this round awesome
Post by: jimmi33 on December 09, 2008, 03:46:08 PM
Araeus i agrre with you that we should start rev. if you find a server with the rev then shot me a pm with the ip.


Title: Re: Isn't this round awesome
Post by: Krieger on December 09, 2008, 03:50:20 PM
There's no Faith, there's no Rev.
Quote from: Gameguide
When a Revelation virus is spawned on a True Light server, each of the three mega-corps will spawn a Faith anti-virus on one of their servers in an attempt to stop the Revelation from spreading.


Title: Re: Isn't this round awesome
Post by: Araeus on December 09, 2008, 03:52:11 PM
I know there's no rev yet.  That's why we were all saying rev should've started spawning, but hasn't.


Title: Re: Isn't this round awesome
Post by: Succubus on December 13, 2008, 09:53:49 PM
I signed up a couple of hours ago, and stupidly bought a gold membership, assuming that I'd play for a while. I've yet to complete a single mission due to the admin not having anything in place to stop botting like captcha (as much as I hate captcha, it is warranted). I haven't played SlaveHack in probably a year and a half. I'll be going back there if this keeps up, and will be really ticked about the wasted $20 I spent here.

Wake up, admins.


Title: Re: Isn't this round awesome
Post by: HJ® on December 13, 2008, 10:12:11 PM
Succubus, please don't let the bots ruin your game. The admins are awake, they're just narcoleptic and as such they take a while to respond (Yes that is a joke). Everyone is allowing these bots to ruin the game, and let me tell you, they were not a threat like they are now in the last round.

This is the roughest spot for Hacker Project in it's entire history.

Oh, and you didn't stupidly buy a gold membership. If you continue playing, it will be the biggest key to your in-game success.

Sativa Indica (My group) currently has a bit of a grip on the current in-game situations (Some of my group members are keeping contact with a known bot user, but rest assured we are NOT using the bots) and from what it appears, the biggest known bot user is only toying with the game as it stands and will soon stop playing. Check out the forums if you'd like, as we are currently also about as thriving a community as the rest of the game, and this will soon change due to The Sativa Indica Movement. If you don't know what that is, I suggest you drop by the SI Forums (Link can be found in my signature).

It's all a matter of time before things are back to the way they were. Just a matter of time.

So, on siremi's behalf, I would like to apologize for the current in-game situations, and just try and hold tight.

Thank you
Hatejacket a.k.a. IronLungs
Leader of Sativa Indica


Title: Re: Isn't this round awesome
Post by: Succubus on December 14, 2008, 12:43:16 AM
Instead of waiting for known bot users to decidedly quit the game, they should be banned.


Title: Re: Isn't this round awesome
Post by: HJ® on December 14, 2008, 12:45:46 AM
That they should.


Title: Re: Isn't this round awesome
Post by: Exousia on December 14, 2008, 12:55:36 AM
It certainly deflated the round's opening week.

And I'm around, just not posting much.  :5:


Title: Re: Isn't this round awesome
Post by: Araeus on December 14, 2008, 07:38:49 AM
I would also like to say this new "Server Upgrad" B.S. is annoying as all get out.  Awesome, the old .6 server I was upgrading 3 fileshares to upgraded last night, now it's 4.75 and my uploads are done but I can't get in to finish them... I understand that protects need to improve on the servers Emi but good lord, a jump frmo .6 to 4.75?  Awesome, now I'm pretty sure my stats are high enough to break this server now, considering I gave up on my old strategy of actually keeping up with current software versions spawning on the secret servers.

I would really much prefer you spawn 200 servers and then when they upgrade, upgrade by a given margin (maybe .5 or so?) so thatp epole can at least have a friggin chance at cracking them again quickly... because not gonna lie if I logged in and I was about to finish a 10k mission of something and the server had jumped from .5 to 5 overnight and I can't get in to finish that mission and somebody steals it because I can't crack into the new protects I would be pissed.


Title: Re: Isn't this round awesome
Post by: Krieger on December 14, 2008, 08:35:39 AM
Quote from: Araeus
because not gonna lie if I logged in and I was about to finish a 10k mission of something and the server had jumped from .5 to 5 overnight and I can't get in to finish that mission and somebody steals it because I can't crack into the new protects I would be pissed
Then I'm pissed.


Title: Re: Isn't this round awesome
Post by: Araeus on December 14, 2008, 03:31:00 PM
Quote from: Araeus
because not gonna lie if I logged in and I was about to finish a 10k mission of something and the server had jumped from .5 to 5 overnight and I can't get in to finish that mission and somebody steals it because I can't crack into the new protects I would be pissed
Then I'm pissed.

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Title: Re: Isn't this round awesome
Post by: HJ® on December 14, 2008, 03:33:12 PM
Bad Araeus. Bad.


Title: Re: Isn't this round awesome
Post by: jager on December 16, 2008, 03:53:20 AM
Wow, server protection jumped from v0.1 to v5.15. Nice touch. Especially for those who just started to play.


Title: Re: Isn't this round awesome
Post by: Araeus on December 16, 2008, 07:09:03 AM
Yeah I had just thought about that today... if you are randomly choosing which servers to increase then that means all of them will eventually be increased, leaving no secret servers for new players to crack...

So that means all the new players only get the public servers, which are generally crowded as it is.  On my IP list last time I looked 5 or so of the original .1 servers have already upgraded...


Title: Re: Isn't this round awesome
Post by: Krieger on December 16, 2008, 07:47:11 AM
File spawned: Revelation. Check the revelation page.


Title: Re: Isn't this round awesome
Post by: jimmi33 on December 16, 2008, 08:30:00 AM
Krieger if you ever find one then pm me with the ip i will fight to restart the round.


Title: Re: Isn't this round awesome
Post by: Exousia on December 16, 2008, 02:35:10 PM
Already? Sheesh, I just got started.... :2:


Title: Re: Isn't this round awesome
Post by: HJ® on December 16, 2008, 02:52:23 PM
This is plain ridiculous.

If Revelations are to be spawned this early in the round, Sativa Indica will be considered pro-revelations for every round and we will attempt to get them over as fast as possible. It's been less than 3 weeks and there are already 9 Faiths on the public servers, meaning there are 3 Revelations out there. At that rate Sativa Indica could make about 100 dollars per month or a few dollars per day, which is pretty good for an online group. If this becomes a success I will continue to do it each and every round until this game is dead.

Thanks for f**king your own game up. Isn't it awesome that we have a developer that can be considered the worst of all time?


Title: Re: Isn't this round awesome
Post by: Araeus on December 16, 2008, 03:35:00 PM
Yeah, I would assume that anybody outside of probably the top 20-30 can't even hope to run a revelation, and therefore can't even run the faith AV to remove it...

When I thought of this I was like "I'll make an extra server to put it on!  Oh wait... balls..."  :laugh:


Title: Re: Isn't this round awesome
Post by: Krieger on December 16, 2008, 03:48:44 PM
When I thought of this I was like "I'll make an extra server to put it on!  Oh wait... balls..."  :laugh:
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