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Title: Slow Connection. :/
Post by: DamascuS on February 27, 2009, 03:47:32 PM
Dont you just love those days where the internet lags so much you want to bang your head against the desk?

(http://i684.photobucket.com/albums/vv202/Damascu5/screenshot2.jpg)

I live in the UK, and im downloading both of these from the Oxford University mirror site :)


Title: Re: Slow Connection. :/
Post by: Exousia on February 27, 2009, 07:07:26 PM
Hah! I grew up on a 9600 baud modem. Try 7 hours for 4k.  :16:


Title: Re: Slow Connection. :/
Post by: DamascuS on February 27, 2009, 11:49:14 PM
Hehe, i dont remember anything slower than the 56k dial-up we used when i was younger, and even that was painful! though this 460k baud 3G isnt that much better most of the time imo :)


Title: Re: Slow Connection. :/
Post by: Exousia on February 28, 2009, 12:55:40 AM
lol Compared to a 9600, a 56k was insanely fast.... However, even my DSL seems slow these days too.  :laugh:

My folks have this wireless 12G or something cable connection or some such nonsense. Of course they make up for it by overloading their systems with multiple virus scanners and such so it ends up balancing out.


Title: Re: Slow Connection. :/
Post by: gs 059 on March 01, 2009, 06:01:24 PM
and here I am fairly new to the internet, only been on it for about 9 years... (since I was 11ish), I have used 56k, but it was too slow, so I basically went strait for dsl. I have cable now, but it is way to slow (having 1/8 the dl speed in upload sucks)


Title: Re: Slow Connection. :/
Post by: virus man on March 10, 2009, 01:33:20 PM
God I remember when 2400 baud first came out.  My first modem was a 300 baud on a C64.  OR was it a 1200?  I can't remember as it has been so long ago.


Title: Re: Slow Connection. :/
Post by: Eledran on May 26, 2009, 09:47:48 AM
Hehe, i dont remember anything slower than the 56k dial-up we used when i was younger, and even that was painful! though this 460k baud 3G isnt that much better most of the time imo :)

dama = /fail.

The real speed you are downloading at is shown at the "current spped" at the lower zone. The seeds shown at the right of each file is a average spped (it means you paused them for a while as they are so low).

So you have around 150+ kbs/sec, making the math it shows you have a 1-2 Mbit connection over the ATM layer. f**ky is the thing we are over the TCP/IP one...


Title: Re: Slow Connection. :/
Post by: DamascuS on May 26, 2009, 05:05:21 PM
Hehe, i dont remember anything slower than the 56k dial-up we used when i was younger, and even that was painful! though this 460k baud 3G isnt that much better most of the time imo :)

dama = /fail.

The real speed you are downloading at is shown at the "current spped" at the lower zone. The seeds shown at the right of each file is a average spped (it means you paused them for a while as they are so low).

So you have around 150+ kbs/sec, making the math it shows you have a 1-2 Mbit connection over the ATM layer. f**ky is the thing we are over the TCP/IP one...
:laugh: Im afraid it is you who fail bro  :laugh:

You trying to teach grandad how to suck eggs? :laugh: :laugh:

Neither of the downloads were paused, and you can safely ignore the speed shown at the bottom as its never correct in that addon i was using (downthemall for ff), Back then i never seemed to get a speed above 45kbps unless i was lucky :laugh:

Though i would have loved to have a 1-2Mbit connection when i was using my mobile phone as a modem (hence the 3G :19: ).


Title: Re: Slow Connection. :/
Post by: Nagitof on May 28, 2009, 12:13:17 AM
54 kps dail-up speed is pretty good compared to my old dial-up speed, only 28.8 kps. (that was before high speed internet was for household use)

You know what realy pisses me off, Data Collision. That slows down high speed internet by alot. Its when some data gets lost or rearranged so you computer can not use it. It causes your internet speed to go down by !6 times!.

Dail-Up, DSL, wireless (i.e. 3g) and satilite are not affected by this.

You can download some programs that will tell you you accual download speed. (if you have a high speed internet). Your download box might say 200kps but realy you are using 2mps. 1800kps of data is unusable.

For me, I'm on a 7 mps plan, my ending internet speed is only 1.2mps.


Title: Re: Slow Connection. :/
Post by: Eledran on May 30, 2009, 10:45:22 AM
Hehe, i dont remember anything slower than the 56k dial-up we used when i was younger, and even that was painful! though this 460k baud 3G isnt that much better most of the time imo :)

dama = /fail.

The real speed you are downloading at is shown at the "current spped" at the lower zone. The seeds shown at the right of each file is a average spped (it means you paused them for a while as they are so low).

So you have around 150+ kbs/sec, making the math it shows you have a 1-2 Mbit connection over the ATM layer. f**ky is the thing we are over the TCP/IP one...
:laugh: Im afraid it is you who fail bro  :laugh:

You trying to teach grandad how to suck eggs? :laugh: :laugh:

Neither of the downloads were paused, and you can safely ignore the speed shown at the bottom as its never correct in that addon i was using (downthemall for ff), Back then i never seemed to get a speed above 45kbps unless i was lucky :laugh:

Though i would have loved to have a 1-2Mbit connection when i was using my mobile phone as a modem (hence the 3G :19: ).

weird, I use it too and I use FF as the default brower, and I never got a problem with that seed shown at the bottom.

BTW, on the latest speeds of downthemall! or dTaoneclick the download speed shown at each file is the average one (unless I have missed the way to change it), and the one at the bottom and the one shown in the globe that pops up when you point the mouse at one of those tiles you are downloading would show you the real speed you are downloading at.


Title: Re: Slow Connection. :/
Post by: Eledran on May 30, 2009, 10:48:55 AM
54 kps dail-up speed is pretty good compared to my old dial-up speed, only 28.8 kps. (that was before high speed internet was for household use)

You know what realy pisses me off, Data Collision. That slows down high speed internet by alot. Its when some data gets lost or rearranged so you computer can not use it. It causes your internet speed to go down by !6 times!.

Dail-Up, DSL, wireless (i.e. 3g) and satilite are not affected by this.

You can download some programs that will tell you you accual download speed. (if you have a high speed internet). Your download box might say 200kps but realy you are using 2mps. 1800kps of data is unusable.

For me, I'm on a 7 mps plan, my ending internet speed is only 1.2mps.

For any internet user, the real speed is 1/8 of the real offered, as it is mettered on the ATM layer, but you connect using the TCP/IP one.

I even remember the connections slower than 16000 bauds, and also I remeber the fuctional commodore 64 computer my grandparens have, or the fuctional 386 Mhz CPU I have


Title: Re: Slow Connection. :/
Post by: gs 059 on May 30, 2009, 11:57:05 AM
For any internet user, the real speed is 1/8 of the real offered, as it is mettered on the ATM layer, but you connect using the TCP/IP one.


no it is not, it is still at full speed that you are offered (unless your service sucks and is going slower, or is better and goes faster or something). the thing tha tmost people do not look at is that the isp's offer the service in bits rather than bytes, but most operating systems and programs measure everything in bytes. so you are still getting the correct speed, just make sure to remember that your isp shows everything in Kb or Mb, but your os is in KB and MB...


Title: Re: Slow Connection. :/
Post by: Eledran on May 30, 2009, 09:39:04 PM
@gs 059: At my country you are being offered a 1Mb connection (that is the speed at the ads) and you get 1/8 of the speed only (around 100 kbs). Happens with any ISP on here. Ask krieger if you still wonder around.


Title: Re: Slow Connection. :/
Post by: Triadian on May 30, 2009, 10:41:08 PM
@gs 059: At my country you are being offered a 1Mb connection (that is the speed at the ads) and you get 1/8 of the speed only (around 100 kbs). Happens with any ISP on here. Ask krieger if you still wonder around.

seems you failed to understand the original text at all

i'll make it easier for you

1MB = 1000KB    (megabytes to kilobytes)   or 1MB = 1024 KiB   (megabytes to kibibytes)  <--- this is what you wrongly think they are advertising

however they are infact advertising

1Mb = 125KB    (megabits to kilobytes)    or 1Mb = 128 KiB   (megabites to kibibytes)   <---- this is what they are advertising

all makes sence when you understand that letters actually stand for things


Title: Re: Slow Connection. :/
Post by: DamascuS on May 31, 2009, 04:17:26 AM
@gs 059: At my country you are being offered a 1Mb connection (that is the speed at the ads) and you get 1/8 of the speed only (around 100 kbs). Happens with any ISP on here. Ask krieger if you still wonder around.

seems you failed to understand the original text at all

i'll make it easier for you

1MB = 1000KB    (megabytes to kilobytes)   or 1MB = 1024 KiB   (megabytes to kibibytes)  <--- this is what you wrongly think they are advertising

however they are infact advertising

1Mb = 125KB    (megabits to kilobytes)    or 1Mb = 128 KiB   (megabites to kibibytes)   <---- this is what they are advertising

all makes sence when you understand that letters actually stand for things
:laugh:

 :notworthy:


Title: Re: Slow Connection. :/
Post by: Eledran on May 31, 2009, 06:11:24 AM
lol, I did not know around that uber low capacities.

btw, ISPs even confuse terms, althought. I have seen adverts with Mb on it, and others with MB on them, even from the same provider


Title: Re: Slow Connection. :/
Post by: Exousia on May 31, 2009, 06:26:29 AM
I'd like to remind everyone that 99.9999% of people we interact with on a daily basis refer to their monitor as their computer and their case as their hard drive.

Fewer still would know the difference between Mb and MB.

I think the key problem here is that we get hold of these toys without even the slightest clue about how they work. That being said, I can honestly claim that there are few, if any, objects (appliances, vehicles, etc.) that I use that I don't at least have a basic understanding about how they work. I think we sell ourselves short when we don't try to gain a fundamental understanding of the tools we take for granted.


Title: Re: Slow Connection. :/
Post by: Eledran on May 31, 2009, 09:49:06 AM
I'd like to remind everyone that 99.9999% of people we interact with on a daily basis refer to their monitor as their computer and their case as their hard drive.

Fewer still would know the difference between Mb and MB.

I think the key problem here is that we get hold of these toys without even the slightest clue about how they work. That being said, I can honestly claim that there are few, if any, objects (appliances, vehicles, etc.) that I use that I don't at least have a basic understanding about how they work. I think we sell ourselves short when we don't try to gain a fundamental understanding of the tools we take for granted.

I know about it.

I knew there were Mb and MB, but I did not know the measure difference. The one I did not had a clue about were about KiB.

I am the computer guru (class mates do not ask the teacher) and I come with 2-3 mates a day asking me:
-Hey, my computer does not work
-It is working. I see the leds on.
-I do not, there is no image in the screen.
-Please, PUSH THE FU******* POWER ON BOTTON AT THE SREEN! Next time, please, remind the computer is the CPU, and the monitor is the screen.
-The computer was not the box, monitor, keyboard, and so on?
*I do go rolf at this point
-(Teacher): I think I will have to make another exam about computers and peripherals

I can tell about a mess with a keyboard and another one with a USB device... at the computering subject, when we had the exam the day before


Title: Re: Slow Connection. :/
Post by: Triadian on May 31, 2009, 10:23:00 AM
I'd like to remind everyone that 99.9999% of people we interact with on a daily basis refer to their monitor as their computer and their case as their hard drive.

Fewer still would know the difference between Mb and MB.

I think the key problem here is that we get hold of these toys without even the slightest clue about how they work. That being said, I can honestly claim that there are few, if any, objects (appliances, vehicles, etc.) that I use that I don't at least have a basic understanding about how they work. I think we sell ourselves short when we don't try to gain a fundamental understanding of the tools we take for granted.

i'm just glad they come with the free cup holder .....


Title: Re: Slow Connection. :/
Post by: Exousia on May 31, 2009, 07:07:23 PM
You read that story? lol I died a little inside but it was hilarious.  :laugh:


Title: Re: Slow Connection. :/
Post by: gs 059 on May 31, 2009, 07:55:43 PM
I am sure more people mistake the large box on their desk's for a cpu rather than a hard drive... :laugh:


Title: Re: Slow Connection. :/
Post by: Exousia on May 31, 2009, 09:49:20 PM
Or the 3.5" disks for a "hard disk" rather than a floppy. The terms are bandied about Hollywood and the like in the form of "techo-babble" that few really know what the terms mean.


Title: Re: Slow Connection. :/
Post by: Triadian on May 31, 2009, 10:27:04 PM
we interupt this forum thread to bring you an urgent announcement :-

we have all seen the reports about chemicals and gases that are found in everyday foods and products such as the CFC's in the aerosol canisters and such like that recently have been abolished to help save our enviroment. yet the most abundant chemical that we come into contact with almost every second of the day still lurks and the governments of the world are hoping remains under wraps. well today i have decided to tell you all about it. what is this chemical i talk about ???

Di-Hydrogen Monoxide

The chemical DiHydrogen MonOxide, usually refered to as DHMO. It's found in many different cancers, but there's no proven causal link between its presence and the cancers in which it lurks or if they are they have been covered up by the government - so far. The figures are astonishing - DHMO has been found in over 95% of all fatal cervical cancers, and in over 85% of all cancers collected from terminal cancer patients. Despite this, it is still used as an industrial solvent and coolant, as a fire retardant and suppressant, in the manufacture of biological and chemical weapons, in nuclear power plants - and surprisingly, by elite athletes in some endurance sports. But the government has refused to ban it on several occasions. However, the athletes find that withdrawal from DHMO can be difficult, and sometimes, fatal. Medically, it is almost always involved in diseases that have sweating, vomiting and diarrhoea as their symptoms. when was the last time you had one of these symptoms and no doubt ingested some DHMO without even knowing it.

While it has many industrial uses, it is cheap enough to be casually dumped into the environment, its not even illegal to dump it !!!. where it has many unwanted side-effects. DHMO is a major contributor to acid rain, and is heavily involved in the Greenhouse Effect. In industry, it can short out electrical circuits, and can reduce the efficiency of your car's brakes. It is used to help distribute pesticides and herbicides - and long after the pesticides and herbicides may have have degraded away, the DHMO will remain, because it is so resilient.

One reason that DHMO can be so dangerous is its chameleon-like ability to not only blend in with the background, but also to change its state. As a solid, it causes severe tissue burns, while in its hot gaseous state, it kills hundreds of people each year. Thousands more die each year by breathing in small quantities of liquid DHMO into their lungs.

In 1990, at the Santa Cruz campus of the University of California, Eric Lechner and Lars Norpchen publicised the dangers of DHMO - DiHydrogen MonOxide. was it given press coverage or was it just hushed up by the government ???? 1994 the chemical was exposed on the internet by Craig Jackson, who set up The Coalition to Ban DHMO. within hours his site was taken down and remains closed to this day.  Slowly, awareness of this chemical spread more widely. In 1997, 14-year-old Nathan Zohner at the Eagle Rock Junior High School in Idaho surveyed 50 of his fellow students after telling them of the "dangers" of DHMO - and 43 of them signed a petition to immediately ban this chemical. what happend to his petition ???? guess what it was ignored by the university and he later he was asked to leave the high school.

In March 2004, the small city of Aliso Viejo in Orange County in California put, onto the official agenda of the next meeting of the Council, a motion to ban Styrofoam containers because the toxic chemical, DHMO, was used to make them. This motion was put onto the agenda because an enthusiastic paralegal on the Aliso Viejo City payroll had read of DHMO's evil properties on the internet. the motion was withdrawn before it could be voted on.

the government is trying its hardest to hide all information about this commonly used chemical - i urge you to discover the chemical yourself and stop using it as much as is possible, although no doubt you would have become addicted to it already without even knowing it....

its you body you should know what your putting into it......


Title: Re: Slow Connection. :/
Post by: Exousia on May 31, 2009, 10:32:17 PM
Since my body is already 2/3 to 3/4 Di-Hydrogen Monoxide, I will continue drinking it.  :7:


Title: Re: Slow Connection. :/
Post by: gs 059 on June 01, 2009, 12:31:53 AM
Since my body is already 2/3 to 3/4 Di-Hydrogen Monoxide, I will continue drinking it.  :7:

same here, I will even breath it in... and some times eat it...


Title: Re: Slow Connection. :/
Post by: bontrose on June 01, 2009, 07:08:10 AM
yeah so the gov't is trying to kill us?... :21:


when haven't they?


Title: Re: Slow Connection. :/
Post by: DamascuS on June 01, 2009, 09:54:01 AM
I like it with coffee! .......ell it would be hard to drink without it /lol

Oh and did you know, that on April fool's day (April 1st) 1998, someone in the Australian Parliament announced a campaign to ban Di-Hydrogen Monoxide internationally!  :laugh: :laugh:

Man, we are so gullible! :laugh: