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Title: what is better way to defend?
Post by: eTo on October 14, 2009, 08:16:59 AM
Hi, I have one quick question.
What is better if it comes to avoiding to get hacked?
What i mean is, what to research(only, i prefer to concentrate on one system then 2, or more):
firewall protection
password protection
or log deleter?


Title: Re: what is better way to defend?
Post by: Triadian on October 14, 2009, 09:01:25 AM
Mmmmmm - tough one - as really you need all 3

lets see firstly passy pro wins over fire pro - both can be overloaded by a hacker, but passy crack uses more hardware and thus its easier for the cracker to overload fire than passy. but the flipside is it will also cost you more Hardware to run the higher levels

however i would say log del wins over both - provided you know how to use it and are lucky enough never to win the software ip lottery.

but you forgot one important thing - bandwidth. the more you have the faster you rob - the faster you rob the quicker you disconnect and switch ip


Title: Re: what is better way to defend?
Post by: pondmonkey on October 14, 2009, 11:57:36 AM
i think pass break and firewall bypass is the best, then you can get into spg group server and take evrything.


Title: Re: what is better way to defend?
Post by: eTo on October 14, 2009, 01:05:01 PM
but you forgot one important thing - bandwidth. the more you have the faster you rob - the faster you rob the quicker you disconnect and switch ip

Ok, i think i will go for log deleter. hmm.. thought that cpu makes robbery faster? or thx to bandwidth i can plant more viri's?

i think pass break and firewall bypass is the best, then you can get into spg group server and take evrything.
i think there will be better to concentrate time and money on one of those 3. Anyway thx for that advise to break in to some group server ^^ i was just making missions and i already had 3 or more guests :/ i rly don't need to mess anyone else or groups..

besides, how noob protection works? those guests were before i had even 1000 cpu and 8 bandwidth.. or it is working on such way, that someone can break in change logs, kill processes, but can't upload viri's or delete software?


Title: Re: what is better way to defend?
Post by: Triadian on October 14, 2009, 01:27:49 PM

but you forgot one important thing - bandwidth. the more you have the faster you rob - the faster you rob the quicker you disconnect and switch ip
Ok, i think i will go for log deleter. hmm.. thought that cpu makes robbery faster? or thx to bandwidth i can plant more viri's?
cpu allows for more programs to run concurrently - nothing to do with downloading or uploading at all

the reason for bandwidth is this

you can spend 500 hours getting that software from v1.0 to version v2.0

or you can spend 1 hour downloading a v5 from a server at 5000 bandwidth

i think pass break and firewall bypass is the best, then you can get into spg group server and take evrything.
i think there will be better to concentrate time and money on one of those 3. Anyway thx for that advise to break in to some group server ^^ i was just making missions and i already had 3 or more guests :/ i rly don't need to mess anyone else or groups..

besides, how noob protection works? those guests were before i had even 1000 cpu and 8 bandwidth.. or it is working on such way, that someone can break in change logs, kill processes, but can't upload viri's or delete software?


pondmonkey was refering to pass break and fire break not fire protect and pass protect - so in fact you have 5 programs to choose from not 3.

as for the noob protect it is just that - people can come in look around and steal but cant do any damage to your existing files, then can however stop all of your missions and all of your research, and stop all programs running on your hard drive except a few special ones.


Title: Re: what is better way to defend?
Post by: eTo on October 14, 2009, 01:37:00 PM
as for the noob protect it is just that - people can come in look around and steal but cant do any damage to your existing files, then can however stop all of your missions and all of your research, and stop all programs running on your hard drive except a few special ones.

hmm.. and they can recover all logs if they have higher version of log undeleter than i have deleter?


Title: Re: what is better way to defend?
Post by: bontrose on October 14, 2009, 02:01:27 PM
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but you forgot one important thing - bandwidth. the more you have the faster you rob - the faster you rob the quicker you disconnect and switch ip
and the faster u get your stuff stolen


Title: Re: what is better way to defend?
Post by: Triadian on October 14, 2009, 02:10:45 PM

as for the noob protect it is just that - people can come in look around and steal but cant do any damage to your existing files, then can however stop all of your missions and all of your research, and stop all programs running on your hard drive except a few special ones.

hmm.. and they can recover all logs if they have higher version of log undeleter than i have deleter?

indeed


Quote from: Triadian
but you forgot one important thing - bandwidth. the more you have the faster you rob - the faster you rob the quicker you disconnect and switch ip
and the faster u get your stuff stolen

thats only cause you miss out the switch ip part.


Title: Re: what is better way to defend?
Post by: bontrose on October 14, 2009, 03:53:41 PM
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the software ip lottery.


Title: Re: what is better way to defend?
Post by: pondmonkey on October 14, 2009, 08:01:25 PM
i think pass break and firewall bypass is the best, then you can get into spg group server and take evrything.
i think there will be better to concentrate time and money on one of those 3. Anyway thx for that advise to break in to some group server ^^ i was just making missions and i already had 3 or more guests :/ i rly don't need to mess anyone else or groups..
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no sgp is cool the only group that didnt try to kill me after i hacked them.


Title: Re: what is better way to defend?
Post by: Triadian on October 14, 2009, 10:06:26 PM
no sgp is cool the only group that didnt try to kill me after i hacked them.

yet.


Title: Re: what is better way to defend?
Post by: bontrose on October 15, 2009, 01:56:12 PM
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run!


Title: Re: what is better way to defend?
Post by: eTo on October 15, 2009, 03:05:28 PM
yet.

That is why i don't want to mess with groups ;)

BTW, how to make not bad money with adware? how much place them, and what when someone will spy on them while i don't whant to mess with anyone else..


Title: Re: what is better way to defend?
Post by: Exousia on October 15, 2009, 03:26:07 PM

no sgp is cool the only group that didnt try to kill me after i hacked them.

That only means we don't consider you a threat.


Title: Re: what is better way to defend?
Post by: bontrose on October 15, 2009, 03:59:48 PM
 :notworthy:


Title: Re: what is better way to defend?
Post by: pondmonkey on October 15, 2009, 09:21:25 PM
no sgp is cool the only group that didnt try to kill me after i hacked them.
That only means we don't consider you a threat.

=( i doubled my power overnight from that 


Title: Re: what is better way to defend?
Post by: nolkillerklowns on October 16, 2009, 04:27:20 AM
never admit that you hacked sgp. thats just plain rude! :laugh:


Title: Re: what is better way to defend?
Post by: AgentE382 on October 16, 2009, 10:53:21 AM


A player is no longer protected when:
CPU>1100
OR
Bandwidth>10
OR
(not logged in for the last 7 days)

What one can DO on newbie:
- crack him / bounce / modify logs/ download / disinfect / capture / unhide / decrypt / set public / kill process  on the newbie

What one can NOT do on newbie:
- upload / delete / hide / encrypt / install


So you can still bully the newbies, but not that hard...  :)

They can kill your processes, but unless someone is feeling extremely mean or has a good reason, they won't. I only kill newbies processes if they're trying to capture my virii, and I only kill that process.

You can have a MAX of 1050 MHz CPU.
You can have a MAX of 9 Kbs Bandwith.
DO NOT get 10Kbs BW if you want to stay under newbie protection.
DO NOT get 1100 Mhz CPU if you want to stay under newbie protection.
the newbie protection standards are for each individual server, so you could have one server which is out of protection and another which is still under it. It depends solely on the hardware of the individual server, not the cumulative hardware of the player.
AgentE382


Title: Re: what is better way to defend?
Post by: bontrose on October 16, 2009, 01:34:57 PM
summing it up? or just a bump?


Title: Re: what is better way to defend?
Post by: Exousia on October 16, 2009, 09:57:04 PM
[gibberish] ... [most of] them [have] the sgp tag on it.

It's also quite easy to rename software so that it resembles SGP software tags. We know the difference.


Title: Re: what is better way to defend?
Post by: pondmonkey on October 16, 2009, 10:17:41 PM
why would anyone do that?


Title: Re: what is better way to defend?
Post by: Exousia on October 16, 2009, 11:40:12 PM
why would anyone do that?

If you weren't around for Round 1 of this game, you aren't aware of SGP's reputation for doggedly tracking those who dare disinfect their virii. SGP was a group both to fear and respect. SGP claimed server groups as their exclusive territory and publicly posted them to let people know what they were in for if they disinfected or captured the virii there.

Conversely, SGP was dormant during Round 2. We suspect that person or persons currently undisclosed attempted to use SGP's reputation even during that round to inspire fear by creating the rumor that SGP was still around. While it was still around, it was not actively attacking or acting as a group. Members joined other groups and formed their own groups. All this was prior to the group update as well. We kept in contact nevertheless.

The SGP tag used to inspire fear and awe in players, nowadays it seems like the tag is vulgarly used by others to scare people, much like the bogeyman. "Don't mess with this virus or SGP will get you!"

Because of attacks on SGP's servers and the theft of our software as well as the profane use of the SGP tag on other software, the SGP tag is ubiquitous right now. SGP doesn't mind sharing software. SGP does mind its name being misused.


Title: Re: what is better way to defend?
Post by: nolkillerklowns on October 17, 2009, 04:41:06 AM
well, we could always show people how SGP came to be known :devil:


Title: Re: what is better way to defend?
Post by: Exousia on October 17, 2009, 04:02:53 PM
well, we could always show people how SGP came to be known :devil:

Since it appears that someone is targeting, framing, and/or otherwise defaming SGP's name, I would agree that is time for SGP to take the offensive.


Title: Re: what is better way to defend?
Post by: nolkillerklowns on October 18, 2009, 08:22:19 AM
well sgp has been good since round 2. when yall took up the "be nice" policy more and more people seem to forget what SGP really is.


Title: Re: what is better way to defend?
Post by: bontrose on October 18, 2009, 01:50:07 PM
****


Title: Re: what is better way to defend?
Post by: Exousia on October 18, 2009, 02:14:57 PM
****

**** *** *** ******?

well sgp has been good since round 2. when yall took up the "be nice" policy more and more people seem to forget what SGP really is.

"Be nice" policy? More like a "be aloof" policy.


Title: Re: what is better way to defend?
Post by: nolkillerklowns on October 18, 2009, 06:33:40 PM
yeha, if it looks like sgp if never around then sgp is being nice.


Title: Re: what is better way to defend?
Post by: Exousia on October 18, 2009, 08:34:04 PM
yeha, if it looks like sgp if never around then sgp is being nice.

I gotta give you that one.  :16:


Title: Re: what is better way to defend?
Post by: bontrose on October 19, 2009, 04:51:13 PM
**** as in i dont want u to have to mod my post because i swore


Title: Re: what is better way to defend?
Post by: Exousia on October 19, 2009, 07:34:12 PM
**** as in i dont want u to have to mod my post because i swore

Ah, fair enough.  :13:


Title: Re: what is better way to defend?
Post by: bontrose on October 20, 2009, 02:03:43 PM
 :5:


Title: Re: what is better way to defend?
Post by: nolkillerklowns on October 21, 2009, 03:38:19 AM
I think what he is saying is hide!


Title: Re: what is better way to defend?
Post by: bontrose on October 22, 2009, 03:39:59 PM
me saying or him telling? :21:


Title: Re: what is better way to defend?
Post by: Exousia on October 22, 2009, 08:44:13 PM
I don't know about anyone else, but I was referring to the possibility of accidental squishing by mentioning the fact that no one really sees what's under their feet, so don't go tempting fate by being anywhere near giants.


Title: Re: what is better way to defend?
Post by: bontrose on October 23, 2009, 04:08:23 PM
yeah i got that much