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Title: Research Estimator...Wrong?
Post by: ãłþħά-∆9 on April 20, 2010, 07:13:41 PM
I just wasted about 750k HPD getting a log deleter to...v15
It was something like 30 tasks for 168 hours which according to the estimator should v30 at least...

I know there's a diminshing return on multiple tasks, but a 50% drop is plain wrong D:

So...make it right plz  :2:


Title: Re: Research Estimator...Wrong?
Post by: Brok Ironfist on April 20, 2010, 07:15:25 PM
Was your original file below level 10?

If so, the estimator fails if below level 10 and the version after is after level 10...


Otherwise it works pretty well...

So, so far today you killed your own robber baron and researched another level 15 log deleter...

Time to go to bed.


Title: Re: Research Estimator...Wrong?
Post by: Triadian on April 21, 2010, 01:52:13 AM
its called estimator for a reason :P

why would i make a research version calculator and spoil all the fun :P


Title: Re: Research Estimator...Wrong?
Post by: ãłþħά-∆9 on April 21, 2010, 04:27:49 AM
Yeah i started on a  0.1 because the increments are higher, bot nowhere near high enough D:

Why can't he change the code a bit to make it right, its silly really, less of an estimator and more of a "shot-in-the-dark-inator"

And yes Brok, epic fail day.  :10:


Title: Re: Research Estimator...Wrong?
Post by: siremi on April 21, 2010, 07:38:45 AM
If you start at 0.1 V then the estimator will only give a right V based on increments blow V 10, so up to V 10 will be estimated ok.

If you want to estimate further, then use a V 10+ software so that it uses the > V 10 variables.

Thank you.


Title: Re: Research Estimator...Wrong?
Post by: ãłþħά-∆9 on April 21, 2010, 10:34:22 AM
Note: Estimated version may be lower then estimated if software is below V 10.0,

Didn't see that before  :13:
I guess I learned the hard way...


Thanks I guess  :19:


Title: Re: Research Estimator...Wrong?
Post by: Triadian on April 21, 2010, 12:56:51 PM
emi - i converted the old code into the new one however i'm getting results below what alpha suggests

based on researching a v0.1 for 168 hours x 32 processes - can you see where the old formula is going wrong ?

1: v1.0996
2: v2.015234
3: v2.853954
4: v3.622222
5: v4.325955
6: v4.970575
7: v5.561047
8: v6.101919
9: v6.597358
10: v7.05118
11: v7.466881
12: v7.847663
13: v8.196459
14: v8.515956
15: v8.808616
16: v9.076692
17: v9.32225
18: v9.547181
19: v9.753218
20: v9.941948
21: v10.114824
22: v10.282824
23: v10.450824
24: v10.618824
25: v10.786824
26: v10.954824
27: v11.122824
28: v11.290824
29: v11.458824
30: v11.626824
31: v11.794824
32: v11.962824

alpha says he ended up with a V 15.3228


for those breaking into my server for the next 76 hours - please leave this research alone.


Title: Re: Research Estimator...Wrong?
Post by: bontrose on April 21, 2010, 04:00:31 PM
any downloads available?


Title: Re: Research Estimator...Wrong?
Post by: Triadian on April 21, 2010, 09:40:56 PM
any downloads available?

wtf ???? - its part of the game bon - seriously ????


Title: Re: Research Estimator...Wrong?
Post by: bontrose on April 22, 2010, 04:40:08 PM
as in "does he have any band free for me to take those on a band higher that .1"
for those breaking into my server for the next 76 hours - please leave this research alone.


Title: Re: Research Estimator...Wrong?
Post by: Triadian on April 22, 2010, 08:48:43 PM
bon do you even know what this thread is about ?


Title: Re: Research Estimator...Wrong?
Post by: Brok Ironfist on April 23, 2010, 05:52:38 AM
Yeah, it's about free software downloads.

Next he'll ask for the IP address.


Title: Re: Research Estimator...Wrong?
Post by: bontrose on April 23, 2010, 03:29:06 PM
right its xxx.xx.xxx.xx


Title: Re: Research Estimator...Wrong?
Post by: Triadian on April 25, 2010, 04:55:01 AM
first set of testing completed

steps 1 - 9 all completed exactly as predicted ( didnt have hardware for all 32 to be processed singularly )

doing second test to see if all 32x168 = v11 or v15



Title: Re: Research Estimator...Wrong?
Post by: ãłþħά-∆9 on April 25, 2010, 06:16:35 AM
Well v15 i'd imagine  :14:


Title: Re: Research Estimator...Wrong?
Post by: Triadian on April 28, 2010, 04:13:02 PM
emi - i converted the old code into the new one however i'm getting results below what alpha suggests

based on researching a v0.1 for 168 hours x 32 processes - can you see where the old formula is going wrong ?

1: v1.0996
2: v2.015234
3: v2.853954
4: v3.622222
5: v4.325955
6: v4.970575
7: v5.561047
8: v6.101919
9: v6.597358
10: v7.05118
11: v7.466881
12: v7.847663
13: v8.196459
14: v8.515956
15: v8.808616
16: v9.076692
17: v9.32225
18: v9.547181
19: v9.753218
20: v9.941948
21: v10.114824
22: v10.282824
23: v10.450824
24: v10.618824
25: v10.786824
26: v10.954824
27: v11.122824
28: v11.290824
29: v11.458824
30: v11.626824
31: v11.794824
32: v11.962824

alpha says he ended up with a V 15.3228


for those breaking into my server for the next 76 hours - please leave this research alone.

second round of results are in

Completing research...
 Basic Decryptor V 0.1 researched for 168 hour(s)...
 Research cost was 16800 HPD... Transferring HP Dollars...
 Research successfully completed.

 Completing research...
 Basic Decryptor V 1.0996 researched for 168 hour(s)...
 Research cost was 16800 HPD... Transferring HP Dollars...
 Research successfully completed.

 Completing research...
 Basic Decryptor V 2.01523 researched for 168 hour(s)...
 Research cost was 16800 HPD... Transferring HP Dollars...
 Research successfully completed.

 Completing research...
 Basic Decryptor V 2.85395 researched for 168 hour(s)...
 Research cost was 16800 HPD... Transferring HP Dollars...
 Research successfully completed.

 Completing research...
 Basic Decryptor V 3.62222 researched for 168 hour(s)...
 Research cost was 16800 HPD... Transferring HP Dollars...
 Research successfully completed.

 Completing research...
 Basic Decryptor V 4.32595 researched for 168 hour(s)...
 Research cost was 16800 HPD... Transferring HP Dollars...
 Research successfully completed.

 Completing research...
 Basic Decryptor V 4.97057 researched for 168 hour(s)...
 Research cost was 16800 HPD... Transferring HP Dollars...
 Research successfully completed.

 Completing research...
 Basic Decryptor V 5.56104 researched for 168 hour(s)...
 Research cost was 16800 HPD... Transferring HP Dollars...
 Research successfully completed.

 Completing research...
 Basic Decryptor V 6.10191 researched for 168 hour(s)...
 Research cost was 16800 HPD... Transferring HP Dollars...
 Research successfully completed.

 Completing research...
 Basic Decryptor V 6.59735 researched for 168 hour(s)...
 Research cost was 16800 HPD... Transferring HP Dollars...
 Research successfully completed.

 Completing research...
 Basic Decryptor V 7.05117 researched for 168 hour(s)...
 Research cost was 16800 HPD... Transferring HP Dollars...
 Research successfully completed.

 Completing research...
 Basic Decryptor V 7.46687 researched for 168 hour(s)...
 Research cost was 16800 HPD... Transferring HP Dollars...
 Research successfully completed.

 Completing research...
 Basic Decryptor V 7.84765 researched for 168 hour(s)...
 Research cost was 16800 HPD... Transferring HP Dollars...
 Research successfully completed.

 Completing research...
 Basic Decryptor V 8.19645 researched for 168 hour(s)...
 Research cost was 16800 HPD... Transferring HP Dollars...
 Research successfully completed.

 Completing research...
 Basic Decryptor V 8.51595 researched for 168 hour(s)...
 Research cost was 16800 HPD... Transferring HP Dollars...
 Research successfully completed.

 Completing research...
 Basic Decryptor V 8.80861 researched for 168 hour(s)...
 Research cost was 16800 HPD... Transferring HP Dollars...
 Research successfully completed.

 Completing research...
 Basic Decryptor V 9.07669 researched for 168 hour(s)...
 Research cost was 16800 HPD... Transferring HP Dollars...
 Research successfully completed.

 Completing research...
 Basic Decryptor V 9.32225 researched for 168 hour(s)...
 Research cost was 16800 HPD... Transferring HP Dollars...
 Research successfully completed.

 Completing research...
 Basic Decryptor V 9.54718 researched for 168 hour(s)...
 Research cost was 16800 HPD... Transferring HP Dollars...
 Research successfully completed.

 Completing research...
 Basic Decryptor V 9.75322 researched for 168 hour(s)...
 Research cost was 16800 HPD... Transferring HP Dollars...
 Research successfully completed.

 Completing research...
 Basic Decryptor V 9.94195 researched for 168 hour(s)...
 Research cost was 16800 HPD... Transferring HP Dollars...
 Research successfully completed.

 Completing research...
 Basic Decryptor V 10.1148 researched for 168 hour(s)...
 Research cost was 16800 HPD... Transferring HP Dollars...
 Research successfully completed.

 Completing research...
 Basic Decryptor V 10.2828 researched for 168 hour(s)...
 Research cost was 16800 HPD... Transferring HP Dollars...
 Research successfully completed.

 Completing research...
 Basic Decryptor V 10.4508 researched for 168 hour(s)...
 Research cost was 16800 HPD... Transferring HP Dollars...
 Research successfully completed.

 Completing research...
 Basic Decryptor V 10.6188 researched for 168 hour(s)...
 Research cost was 16800 HPD... Transferring HP Dollars...
 Research successfully completed.

 Completing research...
 Basic Decryptor V 10.7868 researched for 168 hour(s)...
 Research cost was 16800 HPD... Transferring HP Dollars...
 Research successfully completed.

 Completing research...
 Basic Decryptor V 10.9548 researched for 168 hour(s)...
 Research cost was 16800 HPD... Transferring HP Dollars...
 Research successfully completed.

 Completing research...
 Basic Decryptor V 11.1228 researched for 168 hour(s)...
 Research cost was 16800 HPD... Transferring HP Dollars...
 Research successfully completed.

 Completing research...
 Basic Decryptor V 11.2908 researched for 168 hour(s)...
 Research cost was 16800 HPD... Transferring HP Dollars...
 Research successfully completed.

 Completing research...
 Basic Decryptor V 11.4588 researched for 168 hour(s)...
 Research cost was 16800 HPD... Transferring HP Dollars...
 Research successfully completed.

 Completing research...
 Basic Decryptor V 11.6268 researched for 168 hour(s)...
 Research cost was 16800 HPD... Transferring HP Dollars...
 Research successfully completed.

 Completing research...
 Basic Decryptor V 11.7948 researched for 168 hour(s)...
 Research cost was 16800 HPD... Transferring HP Dollars...
 Research successfully completed.

final result = Decryptor Basic Decryptor  11.9628

new research predictor working as intended - will send to emi for inclusion


Title: Re: Research Estimator...Wrong?
Post by: siremi on April 29, 2010, 05:52:53 AM
Thank you Tri, will include it shortly.


Title: Re: Research Estimator...Wrong?
Post by: ãłþħά-∆9 on April 29, 2010, 01:07:21 PM
Then how the feck did i end up with v15? C:


Title: Re: Research Estimator...Wrong?
Post by: Triadian on April 29, 2010, 01:52:52 PM
Then how the feck did i end up with v15? C:

the only explainations i came across were :-

you were drunk

it wasn't 168x32

maybe one of your abilities improves to level of research rather than time of research - although unsure if any ability like that exists


Title: Re: Research Estimator...Wrong?
Post by: ãłþħά-∆9 on April 29, 2010, 03:18:31 PM
It was!
I started 50 tasks
And cancelled 18 of them, i counted the logs 8D

Unless i didnt start at 0.1?
Cant you make this into a little calculator exe along with overloadhardware use estimation ;)


Title: Re: Research Estimator...Wrong?
Post by: Triadian on April 29, 2010, 04:49:09 PM
It was!
I started 50 tasks
And cancelled 18 of them, i counted the logs 8D

Unless i didnt start at 0.1?
Cant you make this into a little calculator exe along with overloadhardware use estimation ;)

emi has the final codes and will implement them as and when he gets around to it

ftr - i did a 8.8  @ 168 x 32 and that came to 14.535776 so you would of needed at least v9 as a starting block


Title: Re: Research Estimator...Wrong?
Post by: ãłþħά-∆9 on April 29, 2010, 05:13:36 PM
So how many tasks MUST i have done? 8D
Are you saying i wasted EVEN MORE of my HPD than i thought? :laugh: :shifty:


Title: Re: Research Estimator...Wrong?
Post by: Brok Ironfist on April 29, 2010, 07:15:14 PM
If you started out with a decent file, at or near your maximum, you probably didn't waste too much HPD.  Only those that started out below your maximum...  :laugh:


Title: Re: Research Estimator...Wrong?
Post by: Brok Ironfist on April 29, 2010, 07:16:08 PM
You know, you can always look at your Finances to determine how many research projects you completed there.  Each one should have been logged separately, correct?


Title: Re: Research Estimator...Wrong?
Post by: Triadian on April 29, 2010, 08:21:07 PM
So how many tasks MUST i have done? 8D
Are you saying i wasted EVEN MORE of my HPD than i thought? :laugh: :shifty:

alpha - i did notice that 270x32 = v15.323839 - could you of used more hours than you thought ? im thinking maybe you typed in 270 and after getting a discount of say 62% ended up with 168 hours runtime ?


Title: Re: Research Estimator...Wrong?
Post by: ãłþħά-∆9 on April 30, 2010, 05:01:51 AM
You know, you can always look at your Finances to determine how many research projects you completed there.  Each one should have been logged separately, correct?

Too late now, my finances tend to spam out so I can't look back very far...

And probable Tri although i only have 20% in log deleter
I'll play with the estimator once its done, i know i spent about 500k though....


Title: Re: Research Estimator...Wrong?
Post by: bontrose on April 30, 2010, 06:55:42 PM
500k?


Title: Re: Research Estimator...Wrong?
Post by: Triadian on May 01, 2010, 02:46:01 AM
500k?

yeah i spent about 800k just doing the testing for this update.


Title: Re: Research Estimator...Wrong?
Post by: ãłþħά-∆9 on May 01, 2010, 06:19:30 AM
Bontrose didn't know you could get that much money  :14:


Title: Re: Research Estimator...Wrong?
Post by: ãłþħά-∆9 on June 21, 2010, 04:08:59 PM
Estimator: Nmap scanner, IP Leech, IP leech AV all still not working (NaN)


Title: Re: Research Estimator...Wrong?
Post by: bontrose on June 21, 2010, 07:29:33 PM
has to be annoying for those who reserch


Title: Re: Research Estimator...Wrong?
Post by: Triadian on July 07, 2010, 07:17:15 PM
Estimator: Nmap scanner, IP Leech, IP leech AV all still not working (NaN)

i'm awol :P


Title: Re: Research Estimator...Wrong?
Post by: Hatejacket on July 07, 2010, 09:32:03 PM
Doesn't look like it!