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Title: Downloading a file on deleting process
Post by: PauloHaddad on July 11, 2008, 12:39:22 PM
If I delete a file that's being downloaded by another person, what's going to happen if I finish the process first and if he get it ready first.

Thx!  :17:


Title: Re: Downloading a file on deleting process
Post by: Noseedam on July 11, 2008, 12:41:06 PM
if you delete it before he finishes it, he doesn't get file, if he does get it then nothing happens, and he gets said file and it's all good


Title: Re: Downloading a file on deleting process
Post by: siremi on July 11, 2008, 12:45:33 PM
he gets a "File not found!" error


Title: Re: Downloading a file on deleting process
Post by: PauloHaddad on July 11, 2008, 12:55:08 PM
he gets a "File not found!" error

But this error only is shown to him when he clicks on task complete, right?

Is this right? I mean, the right thing shouldn't be whether the deletion's task complete get locked or downloading task cancel automatically? In this last case, it doesn't make sense anyone's gateway download an already deleted file...  :21:


Title: Re: Downloading a file on deleting process
Post by: siremi on July 11, 2008, 01:30:02 PM
download is usually faster then delete process, if he clicked download and there was no delete in the process list he should be fine.


Title: Re: Downloading a file on deleting process
Post by: Noseedam on July 11, 2008, 01:31:33 PM
no, someone did a calculation on how much bandwidth is needed to out pace a delete, it was actually kinda scary, but not horrible (to those in the top 10 anyway >.>)


Title: Re: Downloading a file on deleting process
Post by: PauloHaddad on July 11, 2008, 01:43:27 PM
no, someone did a calculation on how much bandwidth is needed to out pace a delete, it was actually kinda scary, but not horrible (to those in the top 10 anyway >.>)

I think it's possible also. Actually, I am who is downloading a file and the other guy has the task complete available.

I asked that because I can be downloading that file for nothing, and I want to know if what should I do: kill the process or wait until the end?


Title: Re: Downloading a file on deleting process
Post by: BobbyBob on July 11, 2008, 01:46:56 PM
no, someone did a calculation on how much bandwidth is needed to out pace a delete, it was actually kinda scary, but not horrible (to those in the top 10 anyway >.>)
its only 17... 17 is when you need to download within 1 minute before someone starts a delete, and 18 for a normal one i tthink.


Title: Re: Downloading a file on deleting process
Post by: Noseedam on July 11, 2008, 01:58:09 PM
easy for you to say, your's is 80!!!!


Title: Re: Downloading a file on deleting process
Post by: BobbyBob on July 11, 2008, 02:05:42 PM
easy for you to say, your's is 80!!!!
125  :shifty:


Title: Re: Downloading a file on deleting process
Post by: Noseedam on July 11, 2008, 02:07:45 PM
:stupid:


Title: Re: Downloading a file on deleting process
Post by: PauloHaddad on July 11, 2008, 02:08:47 PM
Lol!  :laugh:

I was planning to get that next month!


Title: Re: Downloading a file on deleting process
Post by: BobbyBob on July 11, 2008, 02:13:49 PM
SPAMMERRRRRRRR -kills nos-


Title: Re: Downloading a file on deleting process
Post by: XRay on July 11, 2008, 02:14:15 PM
It's not that difficult really, I'm approaching 200 kbits. :)

As soon as you have some viruses installed, the money starts coming in, meaning more bandwidth, meaning more viruses, meaning more money, meaning more bandwidth, ... you get the idea. I just fear that I'll soon have to dump money into researching better virii to prevent being owned by spyware.

I'm glad the SGP has banned spyware on secret servers, otherwise I'd probably be disinfecting spyware all day...


Title: Re: Downloading a file on deleting process
Post by: Noseedam on July 11, 2008, 02:23:22 PM
in an hour i'm going to start making a killing :P


Title: Re: Downloading a file on deleting process
Post by: PauloHaddad on July 11, 2008, 02:37:12 PM
I think it's possible also. Actually, I am who is downloading a file and the other guy has the task complete available.

I asked that because I can be downloading that file for nothing, and I want to know if what should I do: kill the process or wait until the end?

So...?


Title: Re: Downloading a file on deleting process
Post by: Kingdutch on July 11, 2008, 02:51:12 PM
So better not download since if he completes you're download will be for nothing.

BTW What I think right now is really stupid, I download a file however have to complete the task before someone deleted the file. I can't in example download it, when its'done, leave it three hours while someone else is deleting the file. (Starting deleting after my download finished) if he/she clicks task complete before me, my file download's screwed. Meaning I have to time my downloads really accuratly which is sometimes very hard for 15 hour downloads -.-

Hope I make my point, be able to complete downloads if "Task complete" was shown before file delete is at certain point.


Title: Re: Downloading a file on deleting process
Post by: Noseedam on July 11, 2008, 03:10:05 PM
only download things at the bottom of list >.> tehy're newest and least likely to be deleted, but check them anyway, and if you get the chance change everything to public, i always do it as a courtesy to the newbies


Title: Re: Downloading a file on deleting process
Post by: PauloHaddad on July 11, 2008, 03:17:28 PM
So better not download since if he completes you're download will be for nothing.

BTW What I think right now is really stupid, I download a file however have to complete the task before someone deleted the file. I can't in example download it, when its'done, leave it three hours while someone else is deleting the file. (Starting deleting after my download finished) if he/she clicks task complete before me, my file download's screwed. Meaning I have to time my downloads really accuratly which is sometimes very hard for 15 hour downloads -.-

Hope I make my point, be able to complete downloads if "Task complete" was shown before file delete is at certain point.
I think it too.

TC'ing (TC = task complete) a delete file before the download 100% should cancel the download OR unable delete's TC, because the file is 'in use' and cannot be deleted (it's a Windows thing, althought it can be one of MS 'worst practices').


Title: Re: Downloading a file on deleting process
Post by: Noseedam on July 11, 2008, 03:30:52 PM
>.> i have to agree, but i'm smart, so i was still able to get rid of prefetch >.> believe me, if it's not gone then you could have a problem (people wonder where virus goes, thats where!!!!!!!!!)


Title: Re: Downloading a file on deleting process
Post by: PauloHaddad on July 11, 2008, 03:42:37 PM
Well... the file was was dust, and my download continued. I had to kill it...  :dots:


Title: Re: Downloading a file on deleting process
Post by: virus man on July 11, 2008, 04:25:35 PM
download is usually faster then delete process, if he clicked download and there was no delete in the process list he should be fine.

Sir Emi I apologize but I disagree.  Until you get something around 50 BW you won't be able to beat a delete of the file.  Maybe 30BW but it is still far above what people start with.


Title: Re: Downloading a file on deleting process
Post by: Noseedam on July 11, 2008, 04:30:44 PM
download is usually faster then delete process, if he clicked download and there was no delete in the process list he should be fine.

Sir Emi I apologize but I disagree.  Until you get something around 50 BW you won't be able to beat a delete of the file.  Maybe 30BW but it is still far above what people start with.

he has a point >.> maybe have a speed download with it taking up resources??? (upload too :P)


Title: Re: Downloading a file on deleting process
Post by: PauloHaddad on July 11, 2008, 04:38:44 PM
Sir Emi I apologize but I disagree.  Until you get something around 50 BW you won't be able to beat a delete of the file.  Maybe 30BW but it is still far above what people start with.
I would say that, because before I start downloading that file I checked if someone was trying to delete it and didn't find anything.

he has a point >.> maybe have a speed download with it taking up resources??? (upload too :P)
I have to disagree. Processor capacity does not chance the internet traffic (I'm talking about nowadays, not about Pentium 486).

But I can say that if you could make your processor work in order to drop the filesize (like a zip), then I think it's plausible.


Title: Re: Downloading a file on deleting process
Post by: Noseedam on July 11, 2008, 04:41:04 PM
Sir Emi I apologize but I disagree.  Until you get something around 50 BW you won't be able to beat a delete of the file.  Maybe 30BW but it is still far above what people start with.
I would say that, because before I start downloading that file I checked if someone was trying to delete it and didn't find anything.

he has a point >.> maybe have a speed download with it taking up resources??? (upload too :P)
I have to disagree. Processor capacity does not chance the internet traffic (I'm talking about nowadays, not about Pentium 486).

But I can say that if you could make your processor work in order to drop the filesize (like a zip), then I think it's plausible.

sounds good to me, and it also fills my request for compression software