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Title: Pattern Battle!!!
Post by: Tiak on July 20, 2008, 05:48:19 PM
The rules:
1.  Each post must contain the solution to the previous pattern, followed by your own new pattern.
2.  The solution to the pattern must be the simplest solution given the data you provide.
3.  If a pattern too confusing, people can request that it be lengthened to give them more hints.

I'll start off simple, with a classic...

1, 1, 2, 3, 5, x, y, z


Title: Re: Pattern Battle!!!
Post by: Gathrid on July 22, 2008, 08:40:30 PM
x = 8
y = 13
z = 21


Title: Re: Pattern Battle!!!
Post by: ZacQuicksilver on July 23, 2008, 12:30:56 AM
Tiak, you used Fibonacci(1,1), which is too much of a classic for anyone here to miss.


2, 11, 101, 1009, a, b, c


Have fun. This is a subset of a series I expect all of you to know, if that helps.


Title: Re: Pattern Battle!!!
Post by: Araeus on July 23, 2008, 12:51:43 AM
a = 10007
b = 100003
c = 1000003

Smallest prime number larger than 10^(n-1)


Title: Re: Pattern Battle!!!
Post by: Araeus on July 23, 2008, 12:56:05 AM
This is a fun one... it's a bit obscure but I like it.

(5,11), (7,13), (11,17), (a,b), (c,d), (e,f)

Each of those entries is a pair of numbers.


Title: Re: Pattern Battle!!!
Post by: ZacQuicksilver on July 23, 2008, 01:09:15 AM
Araeus, you're supposed to do mine first.

But since it's there, my guess:

(13,19), (17,23), (23,29).

Primes separated by 6.


Title: Re: Pattern Battle!!!
Post by: ZacQuicksilver on July 25, 2008, 11:26:45 AM
a = 10007
b = 100003
c = 1000003

Smallest prime number larger than 10^(n-1)

Missed you wrote that.

Yep, you got it.


Title: Re: Pattern Battle!!!
Post by: Araeus on July 25, 2008, 11:40:36 AM
Araeus, you're supposed to do mine first.

But since it's there, my guess:

(13,19), (17,23), (23,29).

Primes separated by 6.

Sexy primes
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexy_primes

Yeah... primes numbers seperated by six... chosen mostly for the name.


Title: Re: Pattern Battle!!!
Post by: Tiak on July 25, 2008, 04:12:47 PM
Tiak, you used Fibonacci(1,1), which is too much of a classic for anyone here to miss.
I find if you don't start the game off easy, it never gets started. :P

Anyway, just to mix things up, I have a different kind of classic, frequently presented as a puzzle, before I delve into the obscure.

10, 1110, 3110, 132110, x, y, z


Title: Re: Pattern Battle!!!
Post by: ZacQuicksilver on July 26, 2008, 12:20:04 PM
I've seen that one before.

So I'll wait a little before I post.


Title: Re: Pattern Battle!!!
Post by: Moen Co. on July 27, 2008, 04:13:06 PM
x=1113122110
y=311311222110
z=13211321322110

Reading it out digit by digit helps.  :)

1, 1, 2, 3, 5, 7, 11, x, y, z

This sequence gives me nightmares sometimes, one of the harder classes I took with one of the professors I liked the most.


Title: Re: Pattern Battle!!!
Post by: ZacQuicksilver on July 27, 2008, 04:26:54 PM
x=1113122110
y=311311222110
z=13211321322110

Ha: Partial answer

Equally legitimate answer is:

13123110
23124110
1413223110


1, 1, 2, 3, 5, 7, 11, x, y, z

Let me guess:

16
24
35


Title: Re: Pattern Battle!!!
Post by: Moen Co. on July 27, 2008, 09:04:38 PM
Zac >> Legitimate answer, but not the one I was looking for either!  :laugh:
Maybe we should have a minimum on the number of terms to give in a sequence.

Expanding for the next three terms...

1, 1, 2, 3, 5, 7, 11, 15, 22, 30, x, y, z

And for a hint, the sequence does not have a recurrence relation to describe it, but does have a generating function.



Title: Re: Pattern Battle!!!
Post by: Moen Co. on July 29, 2008, 09:23:00 PM
Ooookay, topic kill... *bump*

So uh, that may have been too obscure? I'll put a new one up, but if Zac would like to post his own since he provided an alternate solution he's free to do so. This one's just for laughs.

8, 6, 7, 5, x, y, z

And no, it's not 6, 4, 5.


Title: Re: Pattern Battle!!!
Post by: ZacQuicksilver on July 30, 2008, 02:09:47 PM
Here's one:

1, 1, 9, 6, 3, x, y, z.

crude, and likely to earn a few facepalms, but also likely to keep people guessing.



Moen: 3, 0, 9? (Bad song reference)


Title: Re: Pattern Battle!!!
Post by: Moen Co. on July 30, 2008, 03:30:26 PM
You got it! (You got it!) eight-six-seven-five-three-oh-nai-eee-aaaii-nnee.  :laugh:

Hey, any song that inspires people to bad prank calls is okay in my book.


Title: Re: Pattern Battle!!!
Post by: Moen Co. on July 31, 2008, 08:45:46 PM
No one in 18 hours...

My guess is 8, 7, 3. Every other number in the decimal expansion of pi.


Title: Re: Pattern Battle!!!
Post by: ZacQuicksilver on July 31, 2008, 09:28:03 PM
No one in 18 hours...

My guess is 8, 7, 3. Every other number in the decimal expansion of pi.

And I thought it would be harder. Oh well.


Title: Re: Pattern Battle!!!
Post by: Moen Co. on July 31, 2008, 09:53:44 PM
Can't stump 'em all the time!

2, 3, 3, 5, 10, 13, 39, 43, 172, 177, x, y, z

Rating this one a 4/10 on the difficulty scale.



Title: Re: Pattern Battle!!!
Post by: ZacQuicksilver on August 07, 2008, 10:09:07 AM
685, 691, 4146

+1,*1,+2,*2,...

How about:

1, 2, 3, 1, 5, 2, 7, 2, 3, 2, 11, 2, a, b, c

needed to be a little longer to start


Title: Re: Pattern Battle!!!
Post by: Moen Co. on August 08, 2008, 06:07:25 PM
That's a strange one. I'm going to give this a longshot and say

a=13
b=2
c=3

Edit:
Continuing the sequence because I'm bored.

1, 2, 3, 2, 5, 2, 7, 2, 3, 2, 11, 2, 13, 2, 3, 2, 17, 2, 19, 2, 3, 2, 23, 2, 5, 2, 3, 2, 29, 2, 31, 2, 3, 2, 5, 2, 37, 2, 3, 2, 41, 2, 43, 2, 3, 2, 47, 2, 7, 2, 3, 2, 53, 2, 5, 2, 3, 2, 59, 2, 61, 2, 3, 2, 5, 2, 67, 2, 3, 2, 71, 2, 73, 2, 3, 2, 7, 2, 79, 2, 3, 2, 83, 2, 5, 2, 3, 2, 89, 2, 7, 2, 3, 2, 5, 2, 97, 2, 3, 2, 101, 2, 103, 2, 3, 2, 107, 2, 109, 2, 3, 2, 113, 2, 5, 2, 3, 2, 7, 2, 11, etc...


Title: Re: Pattern Battle!!!
Post by: ZacQuicksilver on August 08, 2008, 09:15:21 PM
Moen got it, though I'd like to know Neo's logic. My pattern was lowest prime factor


Title: Re: Pattern Battle!!!
Post by: Moen Co. on August 09, 2008, 05:49:06 PM
Moen got it, though I'd like to know Neo's logic. My pattern was lowest prime factor

I'd like to know neo's logic as well.

Also, I think you have a small mistake there. I have a feeling it should start 1,2,3,2,5,2,7,...
I was thinking it was lowest prime factor of n > 1, but that one piece of data threw me off.

Edit:

Right, my turn now.

2, 4, 6, 30, 32, 34, 36, 40, 42, 44, 46, x, y, z

I want your reasoning too!

Double Edit:

Why'd you delete your post neo? No shame in a wrong guess.


Title: Re: Pattern Battle!!!
Post by: ZacQuicksilver on August 09, 2008, 08:41:13 PM
Also, I think you have a small mistake there. I have a feeling it should start 1,2,3,2,5,2,7,...
I was thinking it was lowest prime factor of n > 1, but that one piece of data threw me off.

Mistyped there. Sorry.


Title: Re: Pattern Battle!!!
Post by: ZacQuicksilver on August 10, 2008, 09:39:13 PM
Right, my turn now.

2, 4, 6, 30, 32, 34, 36, 40, 42, 44, 46, x, y, z
[/quote]

I can't come up with anything: perhaps the next few numbers.


Title: Re: Pattern Battle!!!
Post by: Moen Co. on August 10, 2008, 10:34:01 PM
Right, my turn now.

2, 4, 6, 30, 32, 34, 36, 40, 42, 44, 46, x, y, z


I can't come up with anything: perhaps the next few numbers.

50, 52, 54, 56, 60, x, y, z

Hint: It's the evens with an extra rule. Think in words. Extra hint will appear here in another 12-13 hours.


Title: Re: Pattern Battle!!!
Post by: Player on August 10, 2008, 10:35:37 PM
62, 64, 66?

If thats right, then why is there a gap between (0), 2, 4, 6, and 30, 32, 34?


Title: Re: Pattern Battle!!!
Post by: ZacQuicksilver on August 10, 2008, 10:49:45 PM
62, 64, 66?

If thats right, then why is there a gap between (0), 2, 4, 6, and 30, 32, 34?

That's what I've been thinking about. Also: why are the evens ending in 8s left out.


Title: Re: Pattern Battle!!!
Post by: Moen Co. on August 11, 2008, 07:16:56 AM
62, 64, 66?

If thats right, then why is there a gap between (0), 2, 4, 6, and 30, 32, 34?

Correct!

Think about it this way. What do ten, twenty, and eight have that two, four, six, thirty, forty, fifty, and sixty don't have?
Also, zero is not part of the sequence.


Title: Re: Pattern Battle!!!
Post by: Witcher on August 11, 2008, 07:42:13 AM
*groan* Even numbers which do not contain the letter "e" Now that leaves me...  :confused2:


Title: Re: Pattern Battle!!!
Post by: Moen Co. on August 11, 2008, 08:01:02 PM
Well then, what's your sequence? :3


Title: Re: Pattern Battle!!!
Post by: Witcher on August 12, 2008, 02:01:17 AM
Ok then...

This sequence is to show the dangers of the sequence which you posted previously: 

3,6,7,9,13,15,16,17,19,23,x,y,z

This one is a more "normal" sequence which you should be able to deduce  :17:

4,2,5,2,6,0,3,7,6,4,6,9,0,8,x,y,z

Have a good one :drink:



Title: Re: Pattern Battle!!!
Post by: Player on August 12, 2008, 12:06:13 PM
3,6,7,9,13,15,16,17,19,23,x,y,z :

Im guessing the next would be 26,27,29?  :14:


4,2,5,2,6,0,3,7,6,4,6,9,0,8,x,y,z :

X = 0
Y = 4
Z = 3

Had to wiki this one, cant remember all the digits lol  :16:


Title: Re: Pattern Battle!!!
Post by: Witcher on August 12, 2008, 02:31:35 PM
3,6,7,9,13,15,16,17,19,23,x,y,z :

Im guessing the next would be 26,27,29?  :14:

That is correct. Can you explain why it's not 25, 26, 27 though?


4,2,5,2,6,0,3,7,6,4,6,9,0,8,x,y,z :

X = 0
Y = 4
Z = 3

Had to wiki this one, cant remember all the digits lol  :16:

Nothing wrong with Wiki ;-) That one was easy huh... we await your pattern.


Title: Re: Pattern Battle!!!
Post by: ZacQuicksilver on August 12, 2008, 06:53:19 PM
What are those patterns?


Title: Re: Pattern Battle!!!
Post by: Moen Co. on August 12, 2008, 07:06:11 PM
I can't figure out the first, but it probably has to do with the spellings of the numbers.

The second is each of the digits of pi + 1 (mod 10).


Title: Re: Pattern Battle!!!
Post by: Witcher on August 12, 2008, 07:08:33 PM
I can't figure out the first, but it probably has to do with the spellings of the numbers.

The second is each of the digits of pi + 1 (mod 10).

Bingo ;-)

The first in fact is made to show the level of weirdness you introduce when you try to make patterns based on the spelling of numbers. I'll give Moen a hint - it does have to do with the spelling of numbers... but the language used as a reference is not English.


Title: Re: Pattern Battle!!!
Post by: Moen Co. on August 12, 2008, 07:40:15 PM
3,6,7,9,13,15,16,17,19,23,x,y,z

You got me there, it's hard to figure out if you don't know the reference language. And I just made a point a couple days ago on the forums that we had a good amount of people who don't write/speak English as a first language.

I tried looking at German, Dutch, French, Spanish and Japanese, but I've had no luck so far.



Title: Re: Pattern Battle!!!
Post by: Player on August 12, 2008, 10:27:21 PM
Well honestly I just guessed the first one, the reason I didnt include the 25 is because in English, fifteen is spelled differently than "five" or "twenty-five". If you split the word twenty-five, its made up of "twenty" and "five;" and because the number "five" is left out in the sequence, so I guessed 25 is not in the sequence either.   :laugh:

Heres my pattern, theres no tricks to it and you dont need to know any languages either.  :16:



2,3,5,5,7,9,8,10,12,14,12,14,x,y,z


and heres another one:

11543
12322
23411
14564
23xyz


Title: Re: Pattern Battle!!!
Post by: Witcher on August 14, 2008, 10:37:16 AM
2,3,5,5,7,9,8,10,12,14,12,14,x,y,z

My guess is 15,15,17 but I am probably wrong as that 9 in there does not fit into my model very well...

(btw moen - the language was Spanish it just go to show how complicated things get when you have to not only know the language but also find the applicable rule within the language!)


Title: Re: Pattern Battle!!!
Post by: Player on August 14, 2008, 11:33:47 AM
Nop

My hint is to look at how the numbers change ( For example, a lot of numbers have a difference of 2 except a few, why is that? )


Title: Re: Pattern Battle!!!
Post by: Witcher on August 14, 2008, 11:57:24 AM
Ok now that makes a lot more sense.

16, 18, 20, 17, 19, 21...

Here I am certain of a patten... whether it is the pattern which you foresaw I am not so sure as 16,18,20 is simply a bit easy no?


Title: Re: Pattern Battle!!!
Post by: Player on August 14, 2008, 12:18:55 PM
Thats correct!

I never said its a complex pattern have I?  :13:


Title: Re: Pattern Battle!!!
Post by: ZacQuicksilver on August 14, 2008, 05:29:16 PM
That's a weird pattern, but a nice one.


Title: Re: Pattern Battle!!!
Post by: Witcher on August 17, 2008, 05:03:42 PM
Some might have neglected this little jewel posted earlier:
Quote
11543
12322
23411
14564
23xyz

But as I did give a response lets find another pattern... how about...

2,4,7,8,11,13,14,15,16,17,19,22,23,26,28,29,x,y,z

(nb: A great classic, but with a twist)


Title: Re: Pattern Battle!!!
Post by: Player on August 18, 2008, 09:23:02 PM
Guess: 30 31 32

If that's not right then perhaps put a few more numbers in?  :7:


Title: Re: Pattern Battle!!!
Post by: Witcher on August 19, 2008, 04:37:34 AM
Guess: 30 31 32

If that's not right then perhaps put a few more numbers in?  :7:

Bingo  :12:

Congratulations that is exactly the pattern - we used to play this in class in fourth grade or something... thus as I said, a great classic  :laugh:



Title: Re: Pattern Battle!!!
Post by: Nagitof on August 26, 2008, 01:27:45 PM
Heres an easy one.


2,4,16,256,65536,a,b,(and ifyou can) c.


Title: Re: Pattern Battle!!!
Post by: ZacQuicksilver on August 26, 2008, 02:03:53 PM
Heres an easy one.


2,4,16,256,65536,a,b,(and ifyou can) c.

it's X squared

4294967296
281474976710656
18446744073709551616


Hmm, how about:

15, 20, 20, 6, 6, 19, 19, 5, 14, 20, a, b, c


Title: Re: Pattern Battle!!!
Post by: Nagitof on August 27, 2008, 12:58:12 PM
Heres an easy one.


2,4,16,256,65536,a,b,(and ifyou can) c.

it's X squared

4294967296
281474976710656
18446744073709551616


Hmm, how about:

15, 20, 20, 6, 6, 19, 19, 5, 14, 20, a, b, c




Sry ZacQuicksilver. You almost had it.
4294967296=a
281474976710656=wrong
18446744073709551616=b

Like i said try and get c. But you did get a and b. c I choose cause you cant do it on the calculator.



Title: Re: Pattern Battle!!!
Post by: Andreas on August 27, 2008, 01:04:54 PM
Could c be;
340282366920938463463374607431768211456

I cant find a single calculator that can take a so long row of numbers.


Title: Re: Pattern Battle!!!
Post by: Nagitof on August 27, 2008, 02:06:12 PM
Ding!!ding!!ding!!ding!!
You are corrected. :first:

But back to.
Hmm, how about:

15, 20, 20, 6, 6, 19, 19, 5, 14, 20, a, b, c



Title: Re: Pattern Battle!!!
Post by: ZacQuicksilver on August 27, 2008, 02:41:38 PM


Sry ZacQuicksilver. You almost had it.
4294967296=a
281474976710656=wrong
18446744073709551616=b

Like i said try and get c. But you did get a and b. c I choose cause you cant do it on the calculator.



Must of made a mistake on the calculator. I had the formula right though [Xn=(Xn-1)^2].



That one I posted is going to be fun. Just think about it.


Title: Re: Pattern Battle!!!
Post by: Player on September 09, 2008, 11:38:10 PM
15, 20, 20, 6, 6, 19, 19, 5, 14, 20, a, b, c

a = 5
b = 20
c = 20

1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13 :)

Hope people are still interested in this  :2:


Title: Re: Pattern Battle!!!
Post by: ZacQuicksilver on September 10, 2008, 12:23:30 AM
15, 20, 20, 6, 6, 19, 19, 5, 14, 20, a, b, c

a = 5
b = 20
c = 20

Nicely done. Care to explain the pattern for everyone else so they understand (and I know you understand)


As for
1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13

Counting is kinda lame, so why don't you do a real pattern, since you did get it.


Title: Re: Pattern Battle!!!
Post by: Player on September 10, 2008, 07:40:03 PM
Emm, that was the hint for other people....


11543
12322
23411
14564
23xyz

no one solved this one yet, i think


Title: Re: Pattern Battle!!!
Post by: ZacQuicksilver on September 17, 2008, 09:35:36 PM
Emm, that was the hint for other people....


11543
12322
23411
14564
23xyz

no one solved this one yet, i think


Can someone post a hint for this one. I've been racking my brain, and it still doesn't make sense


Title: Re: Pattern Battle!!!
Post by: Andreas on October 08, 2008, 10:36:43 AM
23378? I have no idea at all so Im guessing wildly.


Title: Re: Pattern Battle!!!
Post by: RicTys on October 12, 2008, 11:15:40 PM
is this it?:

11543
12322
23411
14564
23223

x = 2 y = 2 z = 3