The Hacker Project - a free online game

March 29, 2024, 10:20:26 AM
Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.

Login with username, password and session length











"Being legal doesn't make it right."
Pages: [1] 2
Print
Author Topic: Abilities list  (Read 12211 times)
siremi
Administrator
Hero Member
*****
Posts: 1099



View Profile WWW Email
« on: April 28, 2009, 09:46:26 PM »


There is a link now that list the abilities in the game with explanations.
The link is the left main menu, under Software Types:

http://www.hacker-project.com/index.php?action=ability_list

Logged

Araeus
Sr. Member
****
Posts: 447



View Profile Email
« Reply #1 on: April 29, 2009, 12:00:00 AM »

Quote
True Light     Log Deleter runtime     The software will run faster for you
True Light     Firewall Bypass runtime     The software will run faster for you     
Omnicron     Scan Blocker runtime     The software will run faster for you
Icarus     Log UnDeleter runtime     The software will run faster for you
Hakuza     IP Cloaker runtime     The software will run faster for you

Still don't get those ones... they don't have runtimes.

Quote
Omnicron     File Share Virus runtime     The software will run faster for you
Omnicron     Malware Logic Bomb runtime     The software will run faster for you
Icarus     SpyWare runtime     The software will run faster for you
Icarus     Sniffer Daemon runtime     The software will run faster for you
Hakuza     Malware Overload Bomb runtime     The software will run faster for you
Hakuza     Adware Spam Daemon runtime     The software will run faster for you

Install times for virii?  Effect times?  Does a malware running for 1 hour do the damage of one running for 1.01 hours with a 1% increase?  Does an adware/fileshare give the money of 1.01 hours with a 1 hour collect on a 1% increase?
Logged

virus man
Hero Member
*****
Posts: 985


View Profile WWW
« Reply #2 on: April 29, 2009, 01:56:17 AM »

Abilities will likely be getting revamped especially since one of the factions provides an unfair advantage with the current faction missions well 2 factions do.
Logged

SGP is opening their forums for all.  From now on all Tutorials and Help files that SGP releases will be available there.

SGP's Forums.

New World Order
Triadian
Select Member
Hero Member
*****
Posts: 546


Guilty as charged


View Profile Email
« Reply #3 on: April 29, 2009, 02:32:16 AM »

Abilities will likely be getting revamped especially since one of the factions provides an unfair advantage with the current faction missions well 2 factions do.

how is there an unfair advantage ? i assume you mean decrypt runtime.

only those on icarus will have it and only the icarus people will be doing them. so they all have the same chance, 

icarus people are not dis-infecting the same files as true-light. nothing unfair there ?

Logged
siremi
Administrator
Hero Member
*****
Posts: 1099



View Profile WWW Email
« Reply #4 on: April 29, 2009, 09:58:41 AM »

Abilities will likely be getting revamped especially since one of the factions provides an unfair advantage with the current faction missions well 2 factions do.

how is there an unfair advantage ? i assume you mean decrypt runtime.

only those on icarus will have it and only the icarus people will be doing them. so they all have the same chance, 

icarus people are not dis-infecting the same files as true-light. nothing unfair there ?



This is correct, the Icarus people will battle for their own faction Search & Destroy missions so there is no unfair advantage.
Logged

siremi
Administrator
Hero Member
*****
Posts: 1099



View Profile WWW Email
« Reply #5 on: April 29, 2009, 09:59:44 AM »

Quote
True Light     Log Deleter runtime     The software will run faster for you
True Light     Firewall Bypass runtime     The software will run faster for you     
Omnicron     Scan Blocker runtime     The software will run faster for you
Icarus     Log UnDeleter runtime     The software will run faster for you
Hakuza     IP Cloaker runtime     The software will run faster for you

Still don't get those ones... they don't have runtimes.

Quote
Omnicron     File Share Virus runtime     The software will run faster for you
Omnicron     Malware Logic Bomb runtime     The software will run faster for you
Icarus     SpyWare runtime     The software will run faster for you
Icarus     Sniffer Daemon runtime     The software will run faster for you
Hakuza     Malware Overload Bomb runtime     The software will run faster for you
Hakuza     Adware Spam Daemon runtime     The software will run faster for you

Install times for virii?  Effect times?  Does a malware running for 1 hour do the damage of one running for 1.01 hours with a 1% increase?  Does an adware/fileshare give the money of 1.01 hours with a 1 hour collect on a 1% increase?

The runtimes on virii will affect virii install times and research tasks. The version is un-affected by any abilities... yet 1
Logged

virus man
Hero Member
*****
Posts: 985


View Profile WWW
« Reply #6 on: April 29, 2009, 11:37:14 AM »

Abilities will likely be getting revamped especially since one of the factions provides an unfair advantage with the current faction missions well 2 factions do.

how is there an unfair advantage ? i assume you mean decrypt runtime.

only those on icarus will have it and only the icarus people will be doing them. so they all have the same chance, 

icarus people are not dis-infecting the same files as true-light. nothing unfair there ?



This is correct, the Icarus people will battle for their own faction Search & Destroy missions so there is no unfair advantage.

Except you are forgetting one important thing.   HPD / Hour.   If any faction has any bonuses on decreasing the time it takes to complete a mission then those factions will generate a higher HPD / Hour than others.    This gives an unfair advantage that anyone who looks at the abilities will see that 2 factions have the ability to do.

I am really surprised no one saw that.   That is something I am working towards preventing with the revamped abilities.  But that also means those software packages that can be abused in such a manner will not be on the list.

Another thing that you seem to have forgotten was a tactic that SGP came up with in R1 before we started doing the farms.  And as the abilities are set that means an exponential increase in income especially with how AP efficient it is.  That combined with the faction missions will allow those who know the tactics, which many do and it can be found on these forums since we made it public, will allow an unfair advantage to those who are informed.
Logged

SGP is opening their forums for all.  From now on all Tutorials and Help files that SGP releases will be available there.

SGP's Forums.

New World Order
Triadian
Select Member
Hero Member
*****
Posts: 546


Guilty as charged


View Profile Email
« Reply #7 on: April 29, 2009, 02:02:17 PM »

not really

True light = Password Break runtime = faster doing standard delete missions
Omnicron = File Share Virus runtime = faster installs of virii
Icarus = Decryptor runtime = faster faction missions
Hakuza = Adware Spam Daemon runtime = faster installs of virii

seems they all have a hand in the faster cash pie

your just viewing things from a mission point of view - some people dont do any missions
the 2 you consider lacking are implemented for them.

horses for courses....
Logged
jager
Sr. Member
****
Posts: 284



View Profile WWW Email
« Reply #8 on: April 29, 2009, 02:19:01 PM »

Just for intermezzo - does anybody really using Adware virii? 1 Why?
Logged
Araeus
Sr. Member
****
Posts: 447



View Profile Email
« Reply #9 on: April 29, 2009, 02:20:41 PM »

The problem though is that Icarus can get their faction missions done faster and therefore end up with higher standing, more points, and therefore better abilities.

I think that's what ebolla is saying, anyway.

I agree, slightly, and venture a question.

Why is decryptor runtime less expensive (in point cost) than Anti-spyware?  1 point cost vs 3 point cost.  I know spyware is going to be big and bad in the next round with the focus on secret server farms again, but that seems like a large difference considering you still only get the 1% increase on anti-spyware...

jager: adware might be a much better plan next round than in previous.  You can upload quickly, install quickly, and collect profits faster off another person's personal servers, where a fileshare would never be able to finish.  Which is why Hakuza gets them as more of the offensive, attack faction.

Especially if you speed up your adware install time.
Logged

ivandrago
Guest
« Reply #10 on: April 29, 2009, 02:21:58 PM »

Another thing that you seem to have forgotten was a tactic that SGP came up with in R1 before we started doing the farms.  And as the abilities are set that means an exponential increase in income especially with how AP efficient it is.  That combined with the faction missions will allow those who know the tactics, which many do and it can be found on these forums since we made it public, will allow an unfair advantage to those who are informed.

I'm not sure what tactic you talking about ? But if it's the tactic where you start a desinfect task right after installing a virus and then try find the corresponding desinfect mission, then I'm not sure if it will be garanteed to succeed again.

And one other thing: if I understood correctly then we will soon have a bigger variety of faction mission. Maybe other factions specialities will give an advantage on those.
« Last Edit: April 29, 2009, 02:24:56 PM by ivandrago » Logged
jager
Sr. Member
****
Posts: 284



View Profile WWW Email
« Reply #11 on: April 29, 2009, 02:48:31 PM »

jager: adware might be a much better plan next round than in previous.  You can upload quickly, install quickly, and collect profits faster off another person's personal servers, where a fileshare would never be able to finish.  Which is why Hakuza gets them as more of the offensive, attack faction.

Good point, thanks. I forgot about offensive PvP that could be strong in next round ... And now that you mention it - bw is going to be a problem again and therefor FS renderend quite useless. Dang, completely new tactics indeed.
Logged
virus man
Hero Member
*****
Posts: 985


View Profile WWW
« Reply #12 on: April 29, 2009, 10:27:08 PM »

not really

True light = Password Break runtime = faster doing standard delete missions
Omnicron = File Share Virus runtime = faster installs of virii
Icarus = Decryptor runtime = faster faction missions
Hakuza = Adware Spam Daemon runtime = faster installs of virii

seems they all have a hand in the faster cash pie

your just viewing things from a mission point of view - some people dont do any missions
the 2 you consider lacking are implemented for them.

horses for courses....

Installing virii faster will not help much due to AP limitations.  Nice try but you are not looking at it from a logical point of view.
Logged

SGP is opening their forums for all.  From now on all Tutorials and Help files that SGP releases will be available there.

SGP's Forums.

New World Order
virus man
Hero Member
*****
Posts: 985


View Profile WWW
« Reply #13 on: April 29, 2009, 10:29:10 PM »

Another thing that you seem to have forgotten was a tactic that SGP came up with in R1 before we started doing the farms.  And as the abilities are set that means an exponential increase in income especially with how AP efficient it is.  That combined with the faction missions will allow those who know the tactics, which many do and it can be found on these forums since we made it public, will allow an unfair advantage to those who are informed.

I'm not sure what tactic you talking about ? But if it's the tactic where you start a desinfect task right after installing a virus and then try find the corresponding desinfect mission, then I'm not sure if it will be garanteed to succeed again.

And one other thing: if I understood correctly then we will soon have a bigger variety of faction mission. Maybe other factions specialities will give an advantage on those.


Good job.  Some actually paid attention to R1.   Now can you recall which style is most efficient on the AP?
Logged

SGP is opening their forums for all.  From now on all Tutorials and Help files that SGP releases will be available there.

SGP's Forums.

New World Order
virus man
Hero Member
*****
Posts: 985


View Profile WWW
« Reply #14 on: April 29, 2009, 10:31:07 PM »

jager: adware might be a much better plan next round than in previous.  You can upload quickly, install quickly, and collect profits faster off another person's personal servers, where a fileshare would never be able to finish.  Which is why Hakuza gets them as more of the offensive, attack faction.

Good point, thanks. I forgot about offensive PvP that could be strong in next round ... And now that you mention it - bw is going to be a problem again and therefor FS renderend quite useless. Dang, completely new tactics indeed.

There is another very important reason but because of it is why SGP came up with the private farms since we looked at the most efficient use of AP.

Now though with the way that the BW is limited on the NPC servers to what they state they have Adware may very well become king again.  It is all about the AP.
Logged

SGP is opening their forums for all.  From now on all Tutorials and Help files that SGP releases will be available there.

SGP's Forums.

New World Order
Pages: [1] 2
Print
Jump to: