Newbie protection

[siremi]

A player is no longer protected when:
CPU>1100
OR
Bandwidth>10
OR
(not logged in for the last 7 days)

What one can DO on newbie:
- crack him / bounce / modify logs/ download / disinfect / capture / unhide / decrypt / set public / kill process  on the newbie

What one can NOT do on newbie:
- upload / delete / hide / encrypt / install


So you can still bully the newbies, but not that hard... 

[HJ®]

You should still be able to upload, just not virii files.

[virus man]

A player is no longer protected when:
CPU>1100
OR
Bandwidth>10
OR
(not logged in for the last 7 days)

What one can DO on newbie:
- crack him / bounce / modify logs/ download / disinfect / capture / unhide / decrypt / set public / kill process  on the newbie

What one can NOT do on newbie:
- upload / delete / hide / encrypt / install


So you can still bully the newbies, but not that hard... 

I would just say to set a 1 week limit period on newbies.  That way the system can not be abused.

Otherwise what you just did is HIGHLY abusable

[Moen Co.]

I would just say to set a 1 week limit period on newbies.  That way the system can not be abused.

Otherwise what you just did is HIGHLY abusable

I wouldn't think a real-time limit on newbie protection would be fair to everyone.  Those who play infrequently would benefit less from the newbie protection than those who play 24/7. I like the restrictions, but why not a restriction on RAM/HDD? I'd suggest that instead of putting a cap on hardware, you set a cap on how much you can spend on hardware, i.e. after spending 4000HPD on upgrading your server, your newbie protection ends. It gives players a little more freedom in choosing what they want to spend their HPD on. 

Have a separate cap on research spending too, but have it be much smaller, around 500HPD or so.  You don't want a place for newbies to dump all their money in after they've spent 3900 HPD on hardware so they can keep newbie protection forever.  Oh, and a notifier somewhere visible to all players.

[setech]

This one sholud make for some interesting changes again.. No more huge inactive newbie farms now.. suppose this will emegre a new wave of virus breaker attacs on existing spam daemons.. And more PVP.. I'm qurious, how this will affect stuff.. but basically I'm for it.. could be fun.. and good for newbies

[Moen Co.]

This one sholud make for some interesting changes again.. No more huge inactive newbie farms now.. suppose this will emegre a new wave of virus breaker attacs on existing spam daemons.. And more PVP.. I'm qurious, how this will affect stuff.. but basically I'm for it.. could be fun.. and good for newbies

A player is no longer protected when:
CPU>1100
OR
Bandwidth>10
OR
(not logged in for the last 7 days)

I have a question about the last condition. If someone doesn't log in for 7 days, loses protection, then logs back on, and still meets all the other requirements, does the protection reactivate?

[Araeus]

Heh I just tried to upload a virus to an apparently inactive player and got the message "this player is under newbie protection"

Awesome, at least I know it's working... now to wait...

On another note, the only process that has been running on his server is "delete file #79266 Basic Password Protect V 0.106 [localhost] -> task complete" which has been there since the first time I logged in...

[Araeus]

Can newbie servers be excluded from the IP buying list?  I just bought a new set of IPs to put virii on and now I'm wondering how many of them are going to still be under newbie protection...

[Noseedam]

there needs to be a software limiter as well, i found someone who was under newbie and had a 0.6 password protector..........

[Moen Co.]

there needs to be a software limiter as well, i found someone who was under newbie and had a 0.6 password protector..........

There already is one, it's called your hardware. Bet you the newbie couldn't run it.

Scratch that, maybe he could, but he can't do anything else while it's up.

[Noseedam]

someone broke into my server......... and i'm not bad kinda sloppy any more, especially not on private servers

[siremi]

I have a question about the last condition. If someone doesn't log in for 7 days, loses protection, then logs back on, and still meets all the other requirements, does the protection reactivate?

Yes, it will re-activate. Of course if he got some virii installed while he was gone, he'll have to disinfect / format.

[virus man]

I have a question about the last condition. If someone doesn't log in for 7 days, loses protection, then logs back on, and still meets all the other requirements, does the protection reactivate?

Yes, it will re-activate. Of course if he got some virii installed while he was gone, he'll have to disinfect / format.

Sorry but it should not reactivate.  Otherwise here is what is going to happen.
2 people will get together and make a bunch of alt accounts (allowable by ToS).
They will wait 1 week for the protection to wear off then infect the alt accounts (hence 2 people working in tandem)
Then right after that they will just log in on those accounts once every 6 days.

Boom you just have players an unlimited number of adware farms that are now totally protected.

[siremi]

Sorry but it should not reactivate.  Otherwise here is what is going to happen.
2 people will get together and make a bunch of alt accounts (allowable by ToS).
They will wait 1 week for the protection to wear off then infect the alt accounts (hence 2 people working in tandem)
Then right after that they will just log in on those accounts once every 6 days.

Boom you just have players an unlimited number of adware farms that are now totally protected.

The are other protections in place against that, and I'm still monitoring everything to make sure no-one is abusing player farms.
It's very easy to see who has the highest player farms and check them out once in a while.

I'm sure we'll find a way to improve the protection and prevent that from happening, but for now a newbie protection was badly needed. The benefits are greater.

[virus man]

Sorry but it should not reactivate.  Otherwise here is what is going to happen.
2 people will get together and make a bunch of alt accounts (allowable by ToS).
They will wait 1 week for the protection to wear off then infect the alt accounts (hence 2 people working in tandem)
Then right after that they will just log in on those accounts once every 6 days.

Boom you just have players an unlimited number of adware farms that are now totally protected.

The are other protections in place against that, and I'm still monitoring everything to make sure no-one is abusing player farms.
It's very easy to see who has the highest player farms and check them out once in a while.

I'm sure we'll find a way to improve the protection and prevent that from happening, but for now a newbie protection was badly needed. The benefits are greater.

There are Zero Protections against that.  Would you like SGP to prove it to you?  I am sure we could have a hay day with it.  I mean heck 19 new servers a day even with only a .166 adware adds up when they are untouchable.