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Title: newbie help
Post by: Noseedam on July 12, 2008, 02:07:14 PM
how about everyone who joins gets a tutor, or at least a name down the list (from 1- (lets say 200)) and are told to msg them, so that they can learn, and get tips

next person to join would get ebolla, 2nd to join would get soviet, 3rd would be scrixx and so on

i'm sick of catching so many people because they don't understand, and this should be an option on our end, and if they want to turn it down, it's handed to the next person down, with a 8 hour clock on it before it's automatically passed down, and we have to turn on that we want to be a tutor

i think this would improve the quality of game play for all of us >.>


Title: Re: newbie help
Post by: Master Shake on July 12, 2008, 02:13:36 PM
 And if they dont want to? Last thing I would want is some punk 12 year old wanting free software and constantly pestering me. Almost everyone in the top 50 has gone through "trial and error" style of learning. Trying to make the game "newb friendly" is noble,but foolish. You wont learn anything if you dont actually fail a couple times,and from your mistakes you realize what is most important to survival,rather than trying to get knowledge you dont deserve (or have the experience to use).


Title: Re: newbie help
Post by: Noseedam on July 12, 2008, 02:15:39 PM
And if they dont want to? Last thing I would want is some punk 12 year old wanting free software and constantly pestering me. Almost everyone in the top 50 has gone through "trial and error" style of learning. Trying to make the game "newb friendly" is noble,but foolish. You wont learn anything if you dont actually fail a couple times,and from your mistakes you realize what is most important to survival,rather than trying to get knowledge you dont deserve (or have the experience to use).


as i said, you have to turn tutor option on, that way you won't get pestered unless you want to, make sense too you?


Title: Re: newbie help
Post by: Adramalech on July 12, 2008, 02:16:10 PM
or you could read the game guide..?


Title: Re: newbie help
Post by: PauloHaddad on July 12, 2008, 02:31:42 PM
I began the game, read the game guide, played for 2 days then someone fuc*** me a lot. I needed to restart over.

Just game guide might not be enough.

Althought I think that some kind of option on register can be useful, I think that there may have be a place where the newbs can look for a tutor AND other ones want to give yourselves as it. And we have this "rendezvous point": this FORUM.

Let be create a new section here, or in the game, where this can be done.


Title: Re: newbie help
Post by: Noseedam on July 12, 2008, 02:34:51 PM
or you could read the game guide..?

as paulo also stated, game guide is sometimes not enough, and friends are half the reason you play a game.........


Title: Re: newbie help
Post by: Adramalech on July 12, 2008, 02:35:55 PM
that returns a true on both points,


Title: Re: newbie help
Post by: PauloHaddad on July 12, 2008, 02:41:13 PM
(...) and friends are half the reason you play a game.........

Oh yeah!

I left one past week because my friend went to another alliance and left me alone (galactic game...).

Playing alone is for super-hyper-ultra-nerds-that-do-not-have-social-life or lone-wolf-sociopathic ones.

Nothing against them, though.


Title: Re: newbie help
Post by: Noseedam on July 12, 2008, 02:44:35 PM
(...) and friends are half the reason you play a game.........

Oh yeah!

I left one past week because my friend went to another alliance and left me alone (galactic game...).

Playing alone is for super-hyper-ultra-nerds-that-do-not-have-social-life or lone-wolf-sociopathic ones.

Nothing against them, though.

galactic fleets????

and what do you have against us nerds >.> we will rule the world!!!!!!! muywahahahahahhahahahahahahahahha


Title: Re: newbie help
Post by: PauloHaddad on July 12, 2008, 02:46:38 PM
Nothing against them, though.

Like I said, nothing.

At least you talk with others on a forum.  :)

And yes, we are going to (using the grammathical applications).


Title: Re: newbie help
Post by: Noseedam on July 12, 2008, 02:57:01 PM
i was think more of blowing everyone elses computer up with an over load, but that works too! :P


Title: Re: newbie help
Post by: sovietpride on July 12, 2008, 03:15:23 PM
i already have enough tw... "newbies" pestering me thank you very much.

the top players learnt the hardway.

yes, making the game more noob friendly, but please not at our expense -.-'


Title: Re: newbie help
Post by: Noseedam on July 12, 2008, 03:25:16 PM
lemme restate AGAIN you have to turn tutor on, other wise they won't be directed to you


Title: Re: newbie help
Post by: virus man on July 12, 2008, 03:41:51 PM
If they read the Beginner Tutorial (http://www.hacker-project.com/forum/index.php?topic=324.0) it will walk them through all the basics in a step by step fashion that is easy to read.

Also I do update it when I get questions in game from new players that it does not already address.

It is also updated at the SGP forums under New World Order (http://hacker-project.chaoticfury.com/viewforum.php?f=20).

But this is a good idea.  There are other games that do similar things such as Eve-Online.


Title: Re: newbie help
Post by: PauloHaddad on July 12, 2008, 04:27:36 PM
It is also updated at the SGP forums under New World Order (http://hacker-project.chaoticfury.com/viewforum.php?f=20).

It's empty.


Title: Re: newbie help
Post by: virus man on July 12, 2008, 04:43:53 PM
It is also updated at the SGP forums under New World Order (http://hacker-project.chaoticfury.com/viewforum.php?f=20).

It's empty.

Not it is not.  You just failed to register.   You have to register to get into the public sections.


Title: Re: newbie help
Post by: PauloHaddad on July 12, 2008, 08:17:34 PM
Not it is not.  You just failed to register.   You have to register to get into the public sections.
How do I failed?  :21:

Well, I try again.


Title: Re: newbie help
Post by: PauloHaddad on July 12, 2008, 08:19:27 PM
or you could read the game guide..?
Just to prove that some may not read it, I found about 15 IPs in 10 minutes, just looking at True Light Repositories.

I think some does not read it at all.

Go and say to them:  :rtfm:


Title: Re: newbie help
Post by: Noseedam on July 12, 2008, 10:32:02 PM
or you could read the game guide..?
Just to prove that some may not read it, I found about 15 IPs in 10 minutes, just looking at True Light Repositories.

I think some does not read it at all.

Go and say to them:  :rtfm:

yes, yes do so
 
newbies, this is for you,
:rtfm:
:rtfm:


whoops, too many :P, made screen to big too >.>


Title: Re: newbie help
Post by: ZacQuicksilver on July 14, 2008, 02:14:39 AM
As a newbie (several hours), there are two things that have helped me:

1) the manual
2) Noseedam's signature (I do not leave my IP...)


However, I suspect I can only last a few days before I will be begging for help, and would love to have a mentor who could help me along a little. The only online game I've played consistently for more than a few weeks at a time is the one where an experienced player reached out to me early, and guided me into the game. While that player, and a few others along the way: I'm up to 4 who I recognize as having guided me, have moved on (though I still poke 2 of them from time to time); their contact helped integrate me into the game, and I've tried to emulate them to guide others into the game.


Perhaps the Mentor program only starts after a player has done a certain amount. So you, if you signed up to be a mentor, you could count on your student having completed a few missions, having at least a but of an income stream, and perhaps a bit more. This way, you (and hopefully me too, eventually) won't have to be bothered by noobs who are likely to quit the game before a month is up.

On the other side, there should be some advantage for being a mentor. Perhaps the Mentor gets some limited access to their student's Server, while being prevented from performing hostile actions on their student. Another idea is a small benefit based on the student's progress (perhaps 1% of everything the student does, including HPD earnings, research, and gold membership). This way, there is an incentive for people who have been playing longer (even if it's 1 month right now) to help new players.


Another thing that might work is the development of clans in some form. In many games, clans (or whatever they are called) serve to provide grunt support for older players, while giving new players a hand up in the world. For this game, new players could be used to hack admin access to servers (assuming there was some way to transfer that), upgrade specific files, and place Adware, providing older players with an advantage over non-clan players. However, these clanned veterans would have to supply the newbies with some amount of resources initially, costing them in the short run.


Title: Re: newbie help
Post by: human on July 14, 2008, 05:17:15 AM
......................................


And perharps adding that user to your affiliates program when it has not one (If siremi agrees it could be added to both, mentor and linker, affiliate programs).


Title: Re: newbie help
Post by: XRay on July 15, 2008, 04:41:29 AM
A mentor system sounds good, and I don't want any benefits from being a mentor. Where can I sign up?


Title: Re: newbie help
Post by: Kingdutch on July 15, 2008, 05:11:38 AM
I would sign this with addition to the IRC being promoted more as alot of top ranked players hang around there and it's a nice way to get instant answers, only problem now being with only  7 people or so on there there's only 2 or so active at a time.

/signed
and I claim scrixx, he's cool  :7:

 :17:


Title: Re: newbie help
Post by: human on July 15, 2008, 06:26:48 PM
...
/signed
...

me too. (I know I proposed that)


Title: Re: newbie help
Post by: Noseedam on July 17, 2008, 09:08:00 AM
As a newbie (several hours), there are two things that have helped me:

1) the manual
2) Noseedam's signature (I do not leave my IP...)

:P thx, it was actually somen i said to bobby, then added as signature cause it's funny



and yes, the manual is also a good thing ^^
those like you who are willing to be active and learn are the ones i decide not to hack (assuming you have the decency to talk to me in your logs :P)

and ingame me if you want a basic 0.53 protect, i found it on a secret server browsing run (beware, takes more cpu to run them than a newbie server >.> but i also have smaller ones, if you can't run them)