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« on: May 03, 2009, 07:48:22 AM »

Introduction
Okay the title would only be understood by someone who makes games but oh well. In my opinion a massive flaw in this game is that the numbers just get bigger and bigger and bigger and bigger and bigger.... This idea is to stop that happening and giving everyone a fair chance to get to the top.



Hardware Upgrades
What I propose is that instead of the game being run by numbers, e.g 1000 kb/s is lower than 2000 kb/s is that the game mechanics is changed to replace numerical stats with objects. Let me explain

Currently you buy upgrades for your server(s) adding a certain amount of something for a price, and it increases a number. Unfortuently the more of that number you have the more money you get which means you can make that number higher. I propose changing the upgrades so as the game progresses so does the technological market.

Day 1 - Objects Available
CPU - Intel Microprocessor - 500 MHz - Obsolete day 7 - Start price 1500 HPD
HDD - Maxtor Hard Drive - 2GB - Obsolete day 7 - Start price 600 HPD
Memory - Samsung SDR RAM - 32 MB - Obsolete day 7 - Start price 1200 HPD
BW - AOL Dial up modem - 5KB/s - Obsolete day 7 - Start price 1500 HPD (Maximum 5 upgrades)
-The bandwidth modems are upgraded instead of another one working along side it, it makes more sense in real life.

Day 4 - Additional Objects Avaliable
HDD - Maxtor Hard Drive MKII - 3GB - Obsolete day 9 - Start price 1200 HPD

And so the game will follow a complex time line, the events could be a script which generates random times for events or be a premade time line.



Computer Chassis
To stop people buying 1,000,000 (NUMBER!) Hard drives, the process of when you buy a server must have limitations. Also you can have as many servers as you like because within 7 game days the technology will be obsolete and the server chassis will be useless.

Day 1 -Cases available
Atari Standard case - Obsolete Day 14 - Start price 2000 HPD (+ there are no components inside)
-Hard drive bays - 1
-Maximum CPU speed 1000 MHz
-Memory Slots 2 (SDR)




Software Upgrades
Research has no limitations on so again the numbers just get bigger and bigger. I suggest having a time line similar to the hardware.

Day 1 - Software Packages available
Firewall Protect - 10mb - v1.000 - Obsolete day 2
and it continues..........


Operating Systems
In addition to the new software time line I suggest incremental Operating systems, also different companies producing different operating systems getting you different bonuses.

Microsoft Windows
+5% Speed (On all operations running on the computer)
-20% Security (All hacks on the system are sped up by 20%)

Apple Mac
+25% Software Cost
+20% Security (All hacks on the system take 20% longer)

Linux
-10% Speed
+5% Security
All software is given a 2% operating bonus on a Linux system



Obsolete Objects and Price Reductions

Every day as new technologies are invented components become obsolete and so are not made any more, but before they become obsolete they reduce in price as new technologies become available. Prices will be reduced by a percentage every day at midnight (Game Time).


I think this would greatly benefit the game by slowing down the game freaks who are on 24/7, the AP system does not do that well.
What do you think? I will understand if I get quite a bit of bad comments, I wont take them personally  1.
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« Reply #1 on: May 03, 2009, 09:38:37 AM »

if i am to understand this correctly

a player who joins near the end of the round only has to do a few things to become the best ? meanwhile those in this from the beginning have worked a lot harder ?

kinda like a smack in the face to them.

while i agree its hard for late players to catch up the top people, its not exactly hard, if you look at the total players joined up 13390 you can see that there are a few 12000+'s in the top 30.

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« Reply #2 on: May 03, 2009, 11:48:12 AM »

I intend it to be balanced. So new players who start at the end of the round will take them a long time to reach high power however the high rank players do not have continuous spiralling numbers.

If that makes any sense, im tired lol
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« Reply #3 on: May 03, 2009, 11:54:30 AM »

why does mac have higher security than linux? and also mac should have a useless part where software not only cost more, but does not work as well since you cant get stuff done on a mac..... (opinion btw I am sure some people can get something done...)
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« Reply #4 on: May 03, 2009, 12:01:01 PM »

why does mac have higher security than linux? and also mac should have a useless part where software not only cost more, but does not work as well since you cant get stuff done on a mac..... (opinion btw I am sure some people can get something done...)

well if thats the case windows needs to delete stuff at random - install viruses every few hours and not allow you to connect every 3rd attempt.

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« Reply #5 on: May 03, 2009, 12:14:10 PM »

I do not see anything wrong with that one... if we want realizm that is...
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« Reply #6 on: May 03, 2009, 01:41:51 PM »

...and transfer all your credit card details onto the goggle home page,

and on a real story note, corrupts file tables of a 1TB hard drive  2
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« Reply #7 on: May 03, 2009, 07:53:31 PM »

Operating Systems
In addition to the new software time line I suggest incremental Operating systems, also different companies producing different operating systems getting you different bonuses.

Microsoft Windows
+5% Speed (On all operations running on the computer)
-20% Security (All hacks on the system are sped up by 20%)

Apple Mac
+25% Software Cost
+20% Security (All hacks on the system take 20% longer)

Linux
-10% Speed
+5% Security
All software is given a 2% operating bonus on a Linux system

Three things
1>  You hate Microsoft
2>  You are a MAC Fanboy
3>  You don't know anything about computers or you would know the new Mac OS is based on Unix which is less secure than Linux now days.

Overall though the idea is interesting.
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« Reply #8 on: May 03, 2009, 08:41:19 PM »

Throw out the RL brands and try it that way. Everyone's going to have their own ideas about Intel / Mac / Linux.

Heck, use Omnicron, Icarus, and Hakuza. Odds are they run every industry anyway according to the story line.

Be careful, though, not to look too much like SlaveHack in the process of doing this.  laugh
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« Reply #9 on: May 04, 2009, 10:48:14 AM »

I was just using real names as suggestions, and actually I am a fan of windows and am an expert programmer. I hate macs but admire their security.

I thought mac was more secure than Linux, I stand corrected.
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« Reply #10 on: May 06, 2009, 10:05:56 AM »

PlyPencil, the suggestions you made are pretty good.
Using real names is great, people can relate to that. Making the whole HP experience feel more real, giving it a greater addiction factor.
As well as Creating diversity by introducing Operating Systems.

However considering your underlying thought;
I think this would greatly benefit the game by slowing down the game freaks who are on 24/7, the AP system does not do that well.
Here is where I believe you are wrong.
People are driven by the fact that they, first hand, see the effects of their efforts and investements. General belief; the more time/effort one invests in a certain area, the more superior one becomes to others.

Your thinking will remove the players desire to advance. As it becomes pointless.
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« Reply #11 on: May 06, 2009, 01:25:57 PM »

...and actually I am a fan of windows...

Wow, you are indeed a rare breed my friend laugh
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« Reply #12 on: May 07, 2009, 12:33:58 PM »

PlyPencil, the suggestions you made are pretty good.
Using real names is great, people can relate to that. Making the whole HP experience feel more real, giving it a greater addiction factor.
As well as Creating diversity by introducing Operating Systems.

However considering your underlying thought;
I think this would greatly benefit the game by slowing down the game freaks who are on 24/7, the AP system does not do that well.
Here is where I believe you are wrong.
People are driven by the fact that they, first hand, see the effects of their efforts and investements. General belief; the more time/effort one invests in a certain area, the more superior one becomes to others.

Your thinking will remove the players desire to advance. As it becomes pointless.

Players would still gain massive advantages however as you said relating to real life makes HP feel more real. Look at this scenario

Now
Player 1 - Power 5,000
Player 1 - Power 5,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000

With my Suggestion
Player 1 - Intel Pentium
Player 2 - Intel Quad Core Quantum Matrix II

Which would you prefer?

And im red haired, of course im rare :P
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« Reply #13 on: May 07, 2009, 05:59:01 PM »

I prefer numbers.... either way, with a ranking system, there are numbers behind what is shown. if you just put in one object is better than another object, than you just have a number behind it saying it is better than the other ones. also, wich do you like:
now:
1. player 1: 50000,
2. player 2: 49999,
3. player 3: 49998

or  with your sugestion:
1. player 1: Intel Quad Core Quantum Matrix II
1. player 2: Intel Quad Core Quantum Matrix II
3. player 3: Intel Pentium


also, what about people that like non intel processors, are you going to go out and benchmark every processor to tell where it is in the game, wich is better intell core i7 e, or the amd phenom II?
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« Reply #14 on: May 19, 2009, 01:58:25 PM »

What this all boils down to is that the problem is that the first CPU upgrade costs 150 HPD, and the millionth CPU upgrade also costs 150 HPD.

If they got more expensive (via some fancy logarithmic function) it'd make it harder to get way too powerful.


...and actually I am a fan of windows...
Wow, you are indeed a rare breed my friend laugh
Probably a masochist ;-)
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