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« on: October 24, 2008, 11:49:53 AM »

Greetings all. It is readily apparent that our recent actions have caused a great stir within your community. As a result, we are announcing our existence and our intentions.

For these past few months we have watched as Six Gun Productions dominated the technological landscape. Through force and collusion they have molded a Union, where all members are dedicated to preventing the use of Revelation. However, SGP thought it relevant to acquire a copy for "research" purposes. The rest of the Union accepted this without question, as SGP was the figurehead of the Union. Over the next couple of weeks, SGP used this period to develop the Tsar Weapons. Their mission was no longer one of research, as they had realized they were holding an extremely powerful weapon.

Reverting back to their aggressive nature, they began using the Tsar Weapons to intimidate and injure non-Union members, regardless of their stance on Revelation. It had become their personal method of intimidation. And yet, among those in the Union, none stepped up and did anything more than raise weak objections, which were met with questions of loyalty, an effective way to silence any dissent. Tell us, have any of you done anything to stop that which you swore to prevent when you first joined the Union?

Our mission is simple and twofold:

First, the outlawing of software such as Virus Breakers and Spyware goes against every base value of the information specialist. The mission should be the first and foremost thing in his mind, and all tools should be available for his disposal without fear of retribution from unrelated parties. To force a person to stop from using a tool of his trade is to weaken and undermine his position. You may have your policies yes, and yes there are consequences to using this software, but to enforce those policies where they do not concern you is none of your business.

Second, we believe that the use of Revelation in any way, shape or form is an abomination and a threat to the safety of all information specialists. SGP has failed to see the ramifications of both using and simply owning a copy of Revelation on its servers. As you can see, a well-versed group of individuals would only need money and organization to bring about Doomsday. SGP has already done the research for us! We as a whole are decidedly anti-Revelation, however, we feel this is the only way to effectively show that SGP's actions are a threat to our continued existence. We intend to bring the Tsar Weapon Project to a stop by any means necessary. We intend to show that SGP is not the only power that rivals the Mega-Corps.
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Thek3mp
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« Reply #1 on: October 24, 2008, 11:56:35 AM »

im not pro rev, pro sgp or pro sotl, either way power to you guys, i can see the next week is going to be intresting
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HJ
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« Reply #2 on: October 24, 2008, 12:22:10 PM »

Yes I can see this will be interesting; Too bad for SoTL the Tsar Bomba Project died hours before this post. I can post logs for proof if you'd like. Now it appears you're the one blowing smoke :P
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Thek3mp
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« Reply #3 on: October 24, 2008, 12:36:29 PM »

meh people act as if this game is some sort of government, remember its a game dont get crazy. thats for both parties.
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« Reply #4 on: October 24, 2008, 12:40:40 PM »

I got to say one thing to this SoTL guy he forgot one fatal thing about his actions.

Each player can only install ONE revelation virus.

Reverting back to their aggressive nature, they began using the Tsar Weapons to intimidate and injure non-Union members, regardless of their stance on Revelation. It had become their personal method of intimidation. And yet, among those in the Union, none stepped up and did anything more than raise weak objections, which were met with questions of loyalty, an effective way to silence any dissent. Tell us, have any of you done anything to stop that which you swore to prevent when you first joined the Union?

There wasn't a single player who went against SGP could use the revelation virus because if you look at it then the most safe way to stop it is to be sure you got it your self it can delay the aktivation of revelation if used correctly.

But you will soon notice it's not so easy to screw with the mass of Hacker Project, have a fun stay SoTL.
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« Reply #5 on: October 24, 2008, 12:47:48 PM »

Jimmi, no offense, but you're too new to the forums to take seriously.  And having Revelation doesn't make us safe; you can't delay it by "using it correctly." The only way to be safe is to have Revelations that can be disinfected in the time it takes to install 10 (60 hours, I think, assuming they time everything perfectly?)
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« Reply #6 on: October 24, 2008, 12:51:38 PM »

Raistlin, no offence, but you shouldn't read a book by it's cover.


Jimmi33 is an original ARC member. Heck he'll probably even pass you in rank before you know it.
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« Reply #7 on: October 24, 2008, 12:53:27 PM »

you dont understand it Raistlin if they do it correctly then if SGP install a v 0.1 revelation and have a disinfectiong ready then they can delay it by atleast 6 hours no matter how good they time it all
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« Reply #8 on: October 24, 2008, 12:58:01 PM »

you dont understand it Raistlin if they do it correctly then if SGP install a v 0.1 revelation and have a disinfectiong ready then they can delay it by atleast 6 hours no matter how good they time it all

Okay: Point A) Type more coherently; my eyes bleed attempting to read your poorly capitalized and entirely unpunctuated mishmash of sentences.

That being said: Point B) That's not what SGP was doing. They installed a v2.4. And there's about a week's worth of delay in keeping a disinfect on that ready; using Version 1.0, with enough resources and a few friends (or alts, created from a public library or something), I could trigger Rev in under a week.
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« Reply #9 on: October 24, 2008, 01:02:19 PM »

a) i am sorry about my type im not english and yes im kind of bad i'll do my best.

b) i didn't said what they were doing right now i gave an option to what they could do to delay it 6 hours or more.

and also one more thing at the moment then this guy SoTL only owns 4 servers with the revelation virus and 2 owned by SGP to tell the truth then i dont belive this guy can pull it all of
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HJ
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« Reply #10 on: October 24, 2008, 01:11:24 PM »

He can't.

The simple fact alone that he tried to install the Revs on his own system multiple times proves his idiocracy.

Either way, my main IP will go into hiding for a bit. Remote attacks are remote attacks. Whoever cracks it, by the way, can have all of the software on it with a 10,000 kb/s connection to play with. Good luck. v273 Firewall and v1000 PWP to bypass.
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« Reply #11 on: October 24, 2008, 01:28:38 PM »

I need language restrictions lifted to properly respond to this gastropod.
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« Reply #12 on: October 24, 2008, 02:06:16 PM »

He can't.

The simple fact alone that he tried to install the Revs on his own system multiple times proves his idiocracy.


Why would you assume that it's all one guys doing? All it would take would be a group of 10 friends, that all have gold. Name the servers with Revelation installations SoTL and you have what appears to be one man. As for his idiocracy(idiocy?), personally it's common sense. You can't touch the newb servers, you cant touch the Rev virus while it's being installed, if they were serious, they could pull it off quite easily.

As for their statement about the Tsar Project.. I agree. The FU should have stopped it before it began. The fact that it had persisted, means that the FU has failed in their MO. And that the FU is willing to toss it's own MO to the wayside if certain conditions are met. Now, because of the research put into it, and the SoTL with their newbie servers, there is no way to even patch this break. Even if FU deleted all of their copies of the 2.45 Rev, there would still be the 2.45 Rev on the SoTL newbie servers.

But.. I see the same problem happening with SoTL. They say they abhor the use of Revelation... and yet they are keeping copies. They are installing them. They are in sense attempting to replace SGP's terrorism with a greater threat of their own. "Get rid of your versions or we will cause doomsday." So they are in essence no different then SGP(I'm assuming are the owners of Tsar).

Now, as for who they are... at least one of them has at one point or time been a FU member. Obviously someone that is either a user of the VB or Spyware. Or has been severely punished for the use of it beforehand. Also it is likely these people have been the targets of Tsar at one time or another. (Of course this is all speculation based on their "statement of purpose")


On a side note.. this will be interesting to see how it turns out. Who will cave.. or who will push the big red button first just to say, "I killed you before you killed me."  16  An issue of pride is what it is now....
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« Reply #13 on: October 24, 2008, 02:19:04 PM »

You can't touch the newb servers, you cant touch the Rev virus while it's being installed, if they were serious, they could pull it off quite easily.

Im sure we all know this; Emi included. Why else has there been newbie server abuse for months?
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« Reply #14 on: October 24, 2008, 02:21:28 PM »

You mean Emi MEANT for it to be used to protect Rev? Well, that explains why he never fixed/responded to the issue. . .
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